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#1
quadblackhawk
Jun 22, 2013 22:21:16 My small group of friends has recently taken up playing D&D, I personally have quite a bit more experiance than them, and have always had more acess to information overall so in general I was the one to go to for information. After running an "example" few encounters with them they all had grand ideas for running a campaign. Which is all well and good, I allowed them to take the reigns of DM and now we have 2 seprate campaigns running, which can be hectic but we somehow make it work.

The problem was fully brought to my attention a couple days ago when our original DM (DM A for this scinario) started playing in DM B's (the second game host who is newer to the game overall.) campaign setting. The issue even started before this with personal attacks on me as a player where DM A tried his hardest to kill me off while not making it too obvious (impossible DC check traps that do well over my HP total, such as 12d10+20 fire damage) or even stops me from playing my character when I somehow miss on a roll of ~30 on a VS AC for a Riposte Strike. Essentially when DM A made his character we knew he wanted to be some kind of evil, but he also wanted to make sure that his character was very important to the party, since we only have a small group every player counts.

He picked the only character with healing, a cleric (unknown to us at the time he also built his cleric as a damage dealer and not a healer so we have minimal healing at best). The biggest problem that arises with this is that he picked the deadly sin of greed to drive his characters motivations, therefore whenever he heals a player he demands gold or he will refuse to heal us for the rest of the game. he declares that the reason for this is "I dont trust you guys so if you pay me Ill learn to trust you over time." and also, unknown to our characters, that he is sending the money he makes to his "sick father in a far away land"(who for all we know doesnt exist, or is not sick at all and because of metagame reasons we also know that this money is donated to no end). I personally prepared myself for this and have stocked up on potions and provisions to be semi-self sufficient, and being an Eladrin if i get into too much trouble Fey Step can save me. Unfortunately our other player has just been shoveling money to DM A because he becomes loud and antagonizing. Whenever he doesnt get his way or if you refuse payment he will do everything in his power to ruin the player, whether it be lying to an important NPC or pushing one of us into multiple enemies and essentially saying good luck, he even tried to attack my character directly.

I feel like the real social reason behind this is he knows that our non-dm friend is a pushover, and is taking advantage of myself and non-dm player not wanting to completely rip appart the story our friend DM B has worked so hard to set up for us. Another reason I think this is happening is because he fears that DM B will run a better campaign. DM A is very much a pessimist and he also is constantly looking down on himslef, leading to literally a ten minute rant about how his original story is so bad and how we dont pity his plight as a person etc. etc. melodrama.

He responds to anyone getting offended by his extortion or getting offended by his antagonizing demenor (IC and OOC) by saying "why are you getting so offended", when we point out that he is accosting players for no reason he feigns ignorance and pretends that he is the victim and that we, the players, are plotting against him. Although, when a player says a word with an inflection he doesnt like he becomes vehemently offended and continues to accost them until, they either decide to rage quit the game or they keep their mouth shut and let him be the character he envisioned.

Basically what I am looking for here is some way to deal with his character in game and he himself outside of the game. I have already told him I dislike what he is doing and that the only reason I continued playing is for DM B, because he is doing well and I want to see him succeed. Because he knows my feelings on his actions in DM B's campaign I can only imagine what will happen next time we play, im seriously expecting rocks fall my character dies (unfortunately my character is the only one properly geared/made in his story so it would be pointless to continue if I did die).

Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running?
#2
ghost007
Jun 22, 2013 23:36:22 1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game.

2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe?

I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good.

Just a game. Dont let it break friendship..
#3
thadian
Jun 23, 2013 0:47:49
1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game. 2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe? I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good. Just a game. Dont let it break friendship..

I disagree. Your player knows he is being a griefer, and I would call him out, out of game. Firmly and politely.

I would also wonder how good a friend such a person could be, and in what other areas of the friendship I would need to watch out for dubious behavior in. As for letting the others deal with it in game, forget that. Deal with it out of game by asking them their feelings. I would suggest making it known that using the excuse "But it is what my character would do" to justify toxic behavior is bad table manners.

There is just no way this can be fun for the other players. This also runs a risk of Game Lag. Don't allow stupidity to ruin the game, and you know what? I have some good friends who I just can't play games with. This has to do with maturity, table manners and to be honest, they are toxic to play games with. Because I won't play with them, our friendship is better; we don't "irk each other" over petty disagreements.

Surely you have that friend or uncle with different views on something like religion or abortion, right? Sometimes, it is easier to smile, refuse to discuss the subject and say "So, how was your day/week/month/year? Anything new going on?" That maintains civil peace quite well.

I do apologize if my advice comes as harsh, however I have experienced this before. Some people are better left to play with themselves because they just don't play well with others.
#4
DaBugbear
Jun 23, 2013 21:25:26 This will end in fire.
#5
Centauri
Jun 24, 2013 0:56:03
Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running?

The person you described is not your friend. Leave the game as soon as possible. There is no in-game solution for this issue. If you want to try to fix it, deal with it out-of-came, person-to-person.

I wouldn't bother. Leave the game.
#6
thespaceinvader
Jun 24, 2013 10:41:49 Remember, no gaming >>>>>> bad gaming. If the player is violating Wheaton's Law, talk to him about it out of game. If he continues, after being asked nicely to stop, either he leaves, or you do.
#7
RedSiegfried
Jun 24, 2013 11:12:48
The person you described is not your friend. Leave the game as soon as possible. There is no in-game solution for this issue. If you want to try to fix it, deal with it out-of-came, person-to-person.

QFT

If you've already told him you don't like his behavior and he hasn't made an effort to change things or compromise in some way, then he's not your friend. The next step is to ask yourself why you would continue to tolerate that kind of behavior from someone who is not your friend. Once you can answer that question the solution will begin to become apparent.

No gaming > bad gaming. You have a duty to yourself to stop playing any game you don't enjoy, otherwise, you're just spending your time being unhappy so someone else won't be displeased with you.

Regardless, if you confront the other player again or if you leave the game, do it with class; calmly, politely and in a mature manner that doesn't escalate the situation. When you look back on how you handled it, you'll be glad you did.
#8
LordOfWeasels
Jun 27, 2013 12:45:14
The biggest problem that arises with this is that he picked the deadly sin of greed to drive his characters motivations, therefore whenever he heals a player he demands gold or he will refuse to heal us for the rest of the game. he declares that the reason for this is "I dont trust you guys so if you pay me Ill learn to trust you over time."

"[Clericname here], you are a greedy drain on this company instead of a valuable contributing member. We no longer wish to adventure with you and we're sure as hell not giving you equal shares for what we've earned so far, you leech. You're fired. We're going to hire someone who wants to participate as an equal in exchange for rewards as an equal. Leave now, we don't want you around."

Then give him a chance to apologise and promise to improve, but.

Why would your character "adventure" with someone like that? Screw that guy, he's not helping.

If the player wants to correct the problem, great. If he wants to make a new character since *none of the other characters will have anything to do with his current jerkCleric*, so be it. If he wants to keep playing that character without correcting his behaviour, no. That doesn't work. He's made the rest of the characters fire him for his malicious incompetence.

Whenever he doesnt get his way or if you refuse payment he will do everything in his power to ruin the player, whether it be lying to an important NPC or pushing one of us into multiple enemies and essentially saying good luck, he even tried to attack my character directly.

Is this a player problem, or a character problem?

Is he being a useless ass because *the player* is a useless ass? In that case, kick him out of the group or walk. It's not worth your time to play with him.

Is he being a useless ass because *the character* is a useless ass and the player is just a guy dumb enough to think that counterproductive characters are okay in a team game? In that case, kick *the character* out of the party, because it is not worth your character's time to work with him, and get the player to make a non-useless character.

DM A is very much a pessimist and he also is constantly looking down on himslef, leading to literally a ten minute rant about how his original story is so bad and how we dont pity his plight as a person etc. etc. melodrama. He responds to anyone getting offended by his extortion or getting offended by his antagonizing demenor (IC and OOC) by saying "why are you getting so offended", when we point out that he is accosting players for no reason he feigns ignorance and pretends that he is the victim and that we, the players, are plotting against him.

Tell him to knock it off, and if he doesn't, kick him out. Again, dude's either a head case or a drama llama. Head case needs help and you are not that help. Drama llama can stop it.
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Basically what I am looking for here is some way to deal with his character in game and he himself outside of the game. I have already told him I dislike what he is doing and that the only reason I continued playing is for DM B, because he is doing well and I want to see him succeed. Because he knows my feelings on his actions in DM B's campaign I can only imagine what will happen next time we play, im seriously expecting rocks fall my character dies (unfortunately my character is the only one properly geared/made in his story so it would be pointless to continue if I did die).

Why are you playing in his game?

And: Tell DM A that you're tired of his crap and it can stop, or you can quit his game. You're okay with either one, he can pick.
Tell DM B that you're tired of DM A's crap and it can stop, or you can quit his game. You're okay with either one although you'd greatly prefer to keep playing with DM B and the other players, and it's DM B's choice: Ride herd on A to make A stop being an ass, kick A out, or you quit.

Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running?

You don't have a pre-existing friendship and he is, at the moment, actively ruining both campaigns.
#9
J.B.
Jun 28, 2013 1:56:40 I have to agree with Ghost007 & Dabubear. It really sounds like he is causing conflict purposefully and, from what you describe, this player is running his character as a backstabbing, evil turd who isn't just unhelpful to the group but may actively try to off other characters. Trying to resolve things out of game so things don't spin outta control would be great if it works, but if you expect this situation to end in fire, make sure his character is the one on fire.
#10
svendj
Jun 28, 2013 6:13:25 LOL how are you even friends with this guy? Doesn't sound like someone you should want to spend a lot (or any) amount of time with.
#11
Sir_Joseph_the_Crowe
Jun 28, 2013 16:20:01
1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game. 2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe? I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good. Just a game. Dont let it break friendship..

I disagree. Your player knows he is being a griefer, and I would call him out, out of game. Firmly and politely.

I would also wonder how good a friend such a person could be, and in what other areas of the friendship I would need to watch out for dubious behavior in. As for letting the others deal with it in game, forget that. Deal with it out of game by asking them their feelings. I would suggest making it known that using the excuse "But it is what my character would do" to justify toxic behavior is bad table manners.

There is just no way this can be fun for the other players. This also runs a risk of Game Lag. Don't allow stupidity to ruin the game, and you know what? I have some good friends who I just can't play games with. This has to do with maturity, table manners and to be honest, they are toxic to play games with. Because I won't play with them, our friendship is better; we don't "irk each other" over petty disagreements.

Surely you have that friend or uncle with different views on something like religion or abortion, right? Sometimes, it is easier to smile, refuse to discuss the subject and say "So, how was your day/week/month/year? Anything new going on?" That maintains civil peace quite well.

I do apologize if my advice comes as harsh, however I have experienced this before. Some people are better left to play with themselves because they just don't play well with others.

The greedy cleric CAN be fun for the other players. One of my friends played such a greedy cleric. He demanded a gold piece per hit point... and invariably ended up with quite a sum of treasure thereby.

Since the party wanted/needed healing (and his PC was the only healer), we non-healers came to accept that as the price to pay for him to use his powers... a 'donation' to his temple. It wasn't such a large amount that we couldn't afford it (and he accepted in-advance loan agreements). It was actually quite amusing. We learned to barter with him. One character even earned 'free healing for a year' after saving the priest's life.

The player eventually used all the money to pay for a temple in the area, which became a headquarters for many an adventure afterwards. Knowing how the temple was funded, the party would go to all lengths to make sure that temple remained standing and in good order.

Every brick, statue and pillar was paid for by some wound or another that the party had taken.

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It all comes down to the player's overall attitudes about it.

The player described in the OP stepped over the line in trying to intimidate the other players into complicity, though. Just tell him that it's not cool, or not fun and see if he can't change his character somewhat to make him more palatable, or at least try to give a reasonable explanation that might make it easier for you as a player to be more magnanimous about it even as your character remains disgusted with the greedy/annoying behavior.

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#1 quadblackhawk Jun 22, 2013 22:21:16	My small group of friends has recently taken up playing D&D, I personally have quite a bit more experiance than them, and have always had more acess to information overall so in general I was the one to go to for information. After running an "example" few encounters with them they all had grand ideas for running a campaign. Which is all well and good, I allowed them to take the reigns of DM and now we have 2 seprate campaigns running, which can be hectic but we somehow make it work. The problem was fully brought to my attention a couple days ago when our original DM (DM A for this scinario) started playing in DM B's (the second game host who is newer to the game overall.) campaign setting. The issue even started before this with personal attacks on me as a player where DM A tried his hardest to kill me off while not making it too obvious (impossible DC check traps that do well over my HP total, such as 12d10+20 fire damage) or even stops me from playing my character when I somehow miss on a roll of ~30 on a VS AC for a Riposte Strike. Essentially when DM A made his character we knew he wanted to be some kind of evil, but he also wanted to make sure that his character was very important to the party, since we only have a small group every player counts. He picked the only character with healing, a cleric (unknown to us at the time he also built his cleric as a damage dealer and not a healer so we have minimal healing at best). The biggest problem that arises with this is that he picked the deadly sin of greed to drive his characters motivations, therefore whenever he heals a player he demands gold or he will refuse to heal us for the rest of the game. he declares that the reason for this is "I dont trust you guys so if you pay me Ill learn to trust you over time." and also, unknown to our characters, that he is sending the money he makes to his "sick father in a far away land"(who for all we know doesnt exist, or is not sick at all and because of metagame reasons we also know that this money is donated to no end). I personally prepared myself for this and have stocked up on potions and provisions to be semi-self sufficient, and being an Eladrin if i get into too much trouble Fey Step can save me. Unfortunately our other player has just been shoveling money to DM A because he becomes loud and antagonizing. Whenever he doesnt get his way or if you refuse payment he will do everything in his power to ruin the player, whether it be lying to an important NPC or pushing one of us into multiple enemies and essentially saying good luck, he even tried to attack my character directly. I feel like the real social reason behind this is he knows that our non-dm friend is a pushover, and is taking advantage of myself and non-dm player not wanting to completely rip appart the story our friend DM B has worked so hard to set up for us. Another reason I think this is happening is because he fears that DM B will run a better campaign. DM A is very much a pessimist and he also is constantly looking down on himslef, leading to literally a ten minute rant about how his original story is so bad and how we dont pity his plight as a person etc. etc. melodrama. He responds to anyone getting offended by his extortion or getting offended by his antagonizing demenor (IC and OOC) by saying "why are you getting so offended", when we point out that he is accosting players for no reason he feigns ignorance and pretends that he is the victim and that we, the players, are plotting against him. Although, when a player says a word with an inflection he doesnt like he becomes vehemently offended and continues to accost them until, they either decide to rage quit the game or they keep their mouth shut and let him be the character he envisioned. Basically what I am looking for here is some way to deal with his character in game and he himself outside of the game. I have already told him I dislike what he is doing and that the only reason I continued playing is for DM B, because he is doing well and I want to see him succeed. Because he knows my feelings on his actions in DM B's campaign I can only imagine what will happen next time we play, im seriously expecting rocks fall my character dies (unfortunately my character is the only one properly geared/made in his story so it would be pointless to continue if I did die). Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running?
#2 ghost007 Jun 22, 2013 23:36:22	1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game. 2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe? I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good. Just a game. Dont let it break friendship..
#3 thadian Jun 23, 2013 0:47:49	1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game. 2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe? I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good. Just a game. Dont let it break friendship.. I disagree. Your player knows he is being a griefer, and I would call him out, out of game. Firmly and politely. I would also wonder how good a friend such a person could be, and in what other areas of the friendship I would need to watch out for dubious behavior in. As for letting the others deal with it in game, forget that. Deal with it out of game by asking them their feelings. I would suggest making it known that using the excuse "But it is what my character would do" to justify toxic behavior is bad table manners. There is just no way this can be fun for the other players. This also runs a risk of Game Lag. Don't allow stupidity to ruin the game, and you know what? I have some good friends who I just can't play games with. This has to do with maturity, table manners and to be honest, they are toxic to play games with. Because I won't play with them, our friendship is better; we don't "irk each other" over petty disagreements. Surely you have that friend or uncle with different views on something like religion or abortion, right? Sometimes, it is easier to smile, refuse to discuss the subject and say "So, how was your day/week/month/year? Anything new going on?" That maintains civil peace quite well. I do apologize if my advice comes as harsh, however I have experienced this before. Some people are better left to play with themselves because they just don't play well with others.
#4 DaBugbear Jun 23, 2013 21:25:26	This will end in fire.
#5 Centauri Jun 24, 2013 0:56:03	Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running? The person you described is not your friend. Leave the game as soon as possible. There is no in-game solution for this issue. If you want to try to fix it, deal with it out-of-came, person-to-person. I wouldn't bother. Leave the game.
#6 thespaceinvader Jun 24, 2013 10:41:49	Remember, no gaming >>>>>> bad gaming. If the player is violating Wheaton's Law, talk to him about it out of game. If he continues, after being asked nicely to stop, either he leaves, or you do.
#7 RedSiegfried Jun 24, 2013 11:12:48	The person you described is not your friend. Leave the game as soon as possible. There is no in-game solution for this issue. If you want to try to fix it, deal with it out-of-came, person-to-person. QFT If you've already told him you don't like his behavior and he hasn't made an effort to change things or compromise in some way, then he's not your friend. The next step is to ask yourself why you would continue to tolerate that kind of behavior from someone who is not your friend. Once you can answer that question the solution will begin to become apparent. No gaming > bad gaming. You have a duty to yourself to stop playing any game you don't enjoy, otherwise, you're just spending your time being unhappy so someone else won't be displeased with you. Regardless, if you confront the other player again or if you leave the game, do it with class; calmly, politely and in a mature manner that doesn't escalate the situation. When you look back on how you handled it, you'll be glad you did.
#8 LordOfWeasels Jun 27, 2013 12:45:14	The biggest problem that arises with this is that he picked the deadly sin of greed to drive his characters motivations, therefore whenever he heals a player he demands gold or he will refuse to heal us for the rest of the game. he declares that the reason for this is "I dont trust you guys so if you pay me Ill learn to trust you over time." "[Clericname here], you are a greedy drain on this company instead of a valuable contributing member. We no longer wish to adventure with you and we're sure as hell not giving you equal shares for what we've earned so far, you leech. You're fired. We're going to hire someone who wants to participate as an equal in exchange for rewards as an equal. Leave now, we don't want you around." Then give him a chance to apologise and promise to improve, but. Why would your character "adventure" with someone like that? Screw that guy, he's not helping. If the player wants to correct the problem, great. If he wants to make a new character since none of the other characters will have anything to do with his current jerkCleric, so be it. If he wants to keep playing that character without correcting his behaviour, no. That doesn't work. He's made the rest of the characters fire him for his malicious incompetence. Whenever he doesnt get his way or if you refuse payment he will do everything in his power to ruin the player, whether it be lying to an important NPC or pushing one of us into multiple enemies and essentially saying good luck, he even tried to attack my character directly. Is this a player problem, or a character problem? Is he being a useless ass because the player is a useless ass? In that case, kick him out of the group or walk. It's not worth your time to play with him. Is he being a useless ass because the character is a useless ass and the player is just a guy dumb enough to think that counterproductive characters are okay in a team game? In that case, kick the character out of the party, because it is not worth your character's time to work with him, and get the player to make a non-useless character. DM A is very much a pessimist and he also is constantly looking down on himslef, leading to literally a ten minute rant about how his original story is so bad and how we dont pity his plight as a person etc. etc. melodrama. He responds to anyone getting offended by his extortion or getting offended by his antagonizing demenor (IC and OOC) by saying "why are you getting so offended", when we point out that he is accosting players for no reason he feigns ignorance and pretends that he is the victim and that we, the players, are plotting against him. Tell him to knock it off, and if he doesn't, kick him out. Again, dude's either a head case or a drama llama. Head case needs help and you are not that help. Drama llama can stop it. ..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" /> Basically what I am looking for here is some way to deal with his character in game and he himself outside of the game. I have already told him I dislike what he is doing and that the only reason I continued playing is for DM B, because he is doing well and I want to see him succeed. Because he knows my feelings on his actions in DM B's campaign I can only imagine what will happen next time we play, im seriously expecting rocks fall my character dies (unfortunately my character is the only one properly geared/made in his story so it would be pointless to continue if I did die). Why are you playing in his game? And: Tell DM A that you're tired of his crap and it can stop, or you can quit his game. You're okay with either one, he can pick. Tell DM B that you're tired of DM A's crap and it can stop, or you can quit his game. You're okay with either one although you'd greatly prefer to keep playing with DM B and the other players, and it's DM B's choice: Ride herd on A to make A stop being an ass, kick A out, or you quit. Any suggestions on how to deal with this problem player without ruining our pre-existing friendship and both campaigns we are running? You don't have a pre-existing friendship and he is, at the moment, actively ruining both campaigns.
#9 J.B. Jun 28, 2013 1:56:40	I have to agree with Ghost007 & Dabubear. It really sounds like he is causing conflict purposefully and, from what you describe, this player is running his character as a backstabbing, evil turd who isn't just unhelpful to the group but may actively try to off other characters. Trying to resolve things out of game so things don't spin outta control would be great if it works, but if you expect this situation to end in fire, make sure his character is the one on fire.
#10 svendj Jun 28, 2013 6:13:25	LOL how are you even friends with this guy? Doesn't sound like someone you should want to spend a lot (or any) amount of time with.
#11 Sir_Joseph_the_Crowe Jun 28, 2013 16:20:01	1. Let him play his pc as he want. If his pc want to charge other pc for heals...so be it. Let other pc deal with it in game. 2. If he is being an asshoe out of game, ask him straight up, why are you acting like a asshoe? I sense you guys took in game rp situation created by your friend & brought it out of game in midsession. Now its turning into rl personal conflict, which isnt good. Just a game. Dont let it break friendship.. I disagree. Your player knows he is being a griefer, and I would call him out, out of game. Firmly and politely. I would also wonder how good a friend such a person could be, and in what other areas of the friendship I would need to watch out for dubious behavior in. As for letting the others deal with it in game, forget that. Deal with it out of game by asking them their feelings. I would suggest making it known that using the excuse "But it is what my character would do" to justify toxic behavior is bad table manners. There is just no way this can be fun for the other players. This also runs a risk of Game Lag. Don't allow stupidity to ruin the game, and you know what? I have some good friends who I just can't play games with. This has to do with maturity, table manners and to be honest, they are toxic to play games with. Because I won't play with them, our friendship is better; we don't "irk each other" over petty disagreements. Surely you have that friend or uncle with different views on something like religion or abortion, right? Sometimes, it is easier to smile, refuse to discuss the subject and say "So, how was your day/week/month/year? Anything new going on?" That maintains civil peace quite well. I do apologize if my advice comes as harsh, however I have experienced this before. Some people are better left to play with themselves because they just don't play well with others. The greedy cleric CAN be fun for the other players. One of my friends played such a greedy cleric. He demanded a gold piece per hit point... and invariably ended up with quite a sum of treasure thereby. Since the party wanted/needed healing (and his PC was the only healer), we non-healers came to accept that as the price to pay for him to use his powers... a 'donation' to his temple. It wasn't such a large amount that we couldn't afford it (and he accepted in-advance loan agreements). It was actually quite amusing. We learned to barter with him. One character even earned 'free healing for a year' after saving the priest's life. The player eventually used all the money to pay for a temple in the area, which became a headquarters for many an adventure afterwards. Knowing how the temple was funded, the party would go to all lengths to make sure that temple remained standing and in good order. Every brick, statue and pillar was paid for by some wound or another that the party had taken. ----- It all comes down to the player's overall attitudes about it. The player described in the OP stepped over the line in trying to intimidate the other players into complicity, though. Just tell him that it's not cool, or not fun and see if he can't change his character somewhat to make him more palatable, or at least try to give a reasonable explanation that might make it easier for you as a player to be more magnanimous about it even as your character remains disgusted with the greedy/annoying behavior.