My problem is that one guy in particular is cramping my style. He complains about how everything is broken, and is essentially non stop trashtalking the game designers. Orb wizards, battleragers, and dragon magazine artlicles. You name it, he hates it. I find myself roleplaying alot less when I share a table with him.
I really feel like telling this guy that people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. He's playing a dwarf fighter, and I feel pretty neutral saying that he has the most broken combo in the game. I mean eladrin wizards, and halfling rogues have a good thing going, but the dwarf fighter just puts every other fighter to shame. I mean seriously, when I wanna play a tempest, and feel the presure to make an urgosh wielding dwarf, something is wrong there.
Why does it seem like the people who condemn brokenness are also the people taking the greatest number of options? The fact that this guy doesn't even see the BS of his own build makes listening to his critique of others untakeable. I certainly don't consider him a helpful member of the community. Thanks for listening to my rant. My elven tempest wields a spiked shield by the way. Double weapons are just fugly(good mechanics, hideous appearance, and the mechanics are a little too good for that matter).
Seriously, he sounds like a friend of mine. Pick a subject, any subject. This friend loves to rant & *****. But, for it to be effective, he needs an audiance.....
So when he gets to a point we just tune him out. Eventually he realizes that he's monologging & quits
I'm having a player vs. player issue. I was playing living FR at one of my town's local universities run by the students there (I go to the other local university and try to represent with sweaters as often as possible). About 20 players show up on average for about 3 tables of dice rolling goodness.
My problem is that one guy in particular is cramping my style. He complains about how everything is broken, and is essentially non stop trashtalking the game designers. Orb wizards, battleragers, and dragon magazine artlicles. You name it, he hates it. I find myself roleplaying alot less when I share a table with him.
Orbizards are horribly broken RAW, and dragon magazine is not very well written most of the time. So this is true. And maybe people are being abusive.
I really feel like telling this guy that people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. He's playing a dwarf fighter, and I feel pretty neutral saying that he has the most broken combo in the game. I mean eladrin wizards, and halfling rogues have a good thing going, but the dwarf fighter just puts every other fighter to shame. I mean seriously, when I wanna play a tempest, and feel the presure to make an urgosh wielding dwarf, something is wrong there.
You could point this out to him.
Why does it seem like the people who condemn brokenness are also the people taking the greatest number of options? The fact that this guy doesn't even see the BS of his own build makes listening to his critique of others untakeable. I certainly don't consider him a helpful member of the community. Thanks for listening to my rant. My elven tempest wields a spiked shield by the way. Double weapons are just fugly(good mechanics, hideous appearance, and the mechanics are a little too good for that matter).
Because its the same people who see these issues as who know there is a problem, fundamentally.
Orbizards are horribly broken. He's absolutely right about that. Tempest fighters are very overpowered.
See, you've run into a powergamer. Thing is, many powergamers feel like they're nerfing themselves if they aren't doing the best thing possible - its not fun to them. But its simultaneously not fun for them to be TOO powerful, because again the game becomes unfun to them.
Honestly, here's my advice:
Talk to the guy about his complaints. Tell him what your problem is and ask him why he's playing if he isn't having fun. If he insists he is having fun, then ask him to stop complaining constantly. If he isn't having fun, or thinks some houserules would improve things, tell him to either leave, or maybe for him to, rather than complain, ask other people if they are having issues. If a lot of people do have issues, then maybe you should consider houserules for the place. If they don't, then tell him that if he's not having fun and is just going to complain to not show up anymore.
If he keeps being non-constructive, uninvite him. Or have whoever is in charge uninvite him. Or maybe just don't show up if he's ruining your fun and you can't uninvite him.
Look him square in the eye and tell him, "Your constant (female dog)ing is negatively affecting my enjoyment of the game. You have 21 other hours in the day to complain about things you don't like, we have 3 hours to play this game." (Adjust math as necessary for length of sessions.) "Please realize we're here to play D&D, not listen to you rant."
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He's got a point of view. Try to see it. Then after three sessions, if you are not friends, sit at a different table.
Seems to me like he's got low self esteem, and wants to tear down designers, and play an uber character to make himself feel good.
Maybe.
Good luck.
-All this whining over mechanics; Don't invite him to say what he'd do differently (he'll never shut up then), just ask, "How many games have you designed?" ie)When you get that credibility, then, you can bi-ch up a storm.
-When he starts whining, just start talking at the same time, glance around sheepisly and mention to the rest, "Oh, sorry, hope I'm not interrupting anything."
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Is this an automated response because I see noting off topic or un-friendly.
"Who gives a crap what this guy thinks about the rules??? Show of hands please."
Consider your point made.
Is this an automated response because I see noting off topic or un-friendly.
That's because the moderators already moderated before you read the posts. Note the ones that say edited by ORC_Uzumaki (namely the first post and the one quoting it).
If he continues to whine, then you can get rude and tell him to shut his f*cking face.
Look him square in the eye and tell him, "Your constant (female dog)ing is negatively affecting my enjoyment of the game. You have 21 other hours in the day to complain about things you don't like, we have 3 hours to play this game." (Adjust math as necessary for length of sessions.) "Please realize we're here to play D&D, not listen to you rant."
I wish I had an award to give you.
Allowing the use of Dragon material is the DMs decision, not the players. But I haven't encountered anything game breaking in there, yet. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough?