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#1 albiero Aug 15, 2008 3:26:21	How many can a lv1 character have? Also, how many times a day can they use it? Yes, I am new to this, and I didn't find an answer in any of the books.
#2 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 3:37:17	I'll bet you my weight in gold it's in your 4e PHB. Try checking the Table of Contents. You paid ~$35 for that book, right?
#3 albiero Aug 15, 2008 3:41:23	Already checked, it tells you how many times you can use it, but nothing about how many you can get.
#4 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 3:48:39	What page(s) are you reading?
#5 albiero Aug 15, 2008 3:57:54	No specific pages, mostly looked in chapter 4 of the Phb, scouted around in the other chapters, but didn't see anything.
#6 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 3:59:50	You need to read your PHB. 4e is a genuinely different and new edition of the game. Don't just scan and flip, read your book.
#7 albiero Aug 15, 2008 4:06:48	Ah, it was in a section I would never think of. Not exactly sure why it was in the gaining levels section, but thank you.
#8 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 4:11:00	Because you gain powers as you gain levels. Don't thank me, you found it yourself. All I said was that you should get your money's worth out of it. Why buy a book, scan over it, and ask somebody else to give you the information in it for free?
#9 deviknyte Aug 15, 2008 4:53:54	In this guys defense it's only on one page and the chart isn't very noticeable if you haven't seen it before. It doesn't stand out at all. I found that to be a big flaw in the book's design.
#10 dalzig Aug 15, 2008 5:11:03	Might just be me... but the Making Characters chapter always seems to be a good place to go when making a character. Then, when I want to level up, I go to the Gaining Levels section and follow that. La la la.. oh, what's this on 7. Powers? Wow. It explains how many you get and at what levels you get more.... Just because people fail to read the book doesn't mean the book is at fault.
#11 albiero Aug 15, 2008 5:43:31	This is a lv1 character that I just started making, why would I think of looking at the gaining level section?
#12 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 8:47:38	My point was that if you're playing 4e, own a PHB, and haven't read completely through chapters two through six, you have, without a doubt, missed something you'll want to know about the game, and are not getting your money's worth. Even if you already know what race and class you want to play, you should at the very least read chapter two completely, then read the relevant sections of chapters three and four, and then at least peruse chapter five, and browse chapters six and seven. Once you've created your character, you should read through chapters eight and nine, and ten if you play a Wizard or a Cleric (or know you won't have either in your group). In reading these chapters, you should be prepared to make changes to you character. If you want to play the game, and all you've done is scanned over the over 300 page instruction manual for how to play the game, Ur Doin' It Rong.
#13 albiero Aug 15, 2008 13:03:43	After all this, I went a read most of the book(Skipped chapter 10, not a magic class). Didn't miss as much as I thought I did...
#14 zaydrache Aug 15, 2008 13:25:01	You might want to read it anyway. Add to that the new alchemy information that is coming with the adventures tome which can be used like rituals it helps make some more things clear.
#15 Novacat Aug 15, 2008 13:42:27	A simple way to remember it is that you get two at-will powers from your class, and then you get one of each level/type thereafter when you reach the appropriate level. (1) 1st level Encounter Power (1) 1st level Daily Power (1) 2nd level Utility Power (1) 3rd level Encounter Power (1) 5th level Daily power and so on. You never gain more than one power at a time (excepting retraining, of course).
#16 Novacat Aug 15, 2008 13:43:25	After all this, I went a read most of the book(Skipped chapter 10, not a magic class). Didn't miss as much as I thought I did... You don't have to be a magic-using class to use Rituals. Anyone with the Ritual Caster feat can use them, and anyone who finds a scroll can use them.
#17 albiero Aug 15, 2008 20:02:28	You don't have to be a magic-using class to use Rituals. Anyone with the Ritual Caster feat can use them, and anyone who finds a scroll can use them. One of the other people with me uses rituals, so I don't really need to bother with them. Plus, I'm not a big fan of them.
#18 turalisj Aug 15, 2008 21:41:59	How many can a lv1 character have? Also, how many times a day can they use it? Yes, I am new to this, and I didn't find an answer in any of the books. RTFB. Simple enough.
#19 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 23:12:16	RTFB. Simple enough. Oh wow! *headsmack* I can't believe none of the other sixteen people who responded before you thought to mention that. RTFB!!! tl;dr much?
#20 turalisj Aug 15, 2008 23:17:06	Give an assanine reply, get one in return...
#21 Cohen95 Aug 15, 2008 23:24:18	Give an assanine reply, get one in return... I'm just laughing over you posting RTFB to begin with. Either you didn't read the thread at all, or you're just posting superfluously for attention.
#22 turalisj Aug 15, 2008 23:46:02	I'm just laughing over you posting RTFB to begin with. Either you didn't read the thread at all, or you're just posting superfluously for attention. Read the first post and the second post, then posted that out of sheer boredom.
#23 Zaistars Aug 16, 2008 4:23:20	How many can a lv1 character have? Also, how many times a day can they use it? Yes, I am new to this, and I didn't find an answer in any of the books. Dude, seriously? Weird you wouldn't read the book. This guy looks like someone who likes to have other people do his work for him. I bet he either grew up on welfare or is on it now.
#24 Cohen95 Aug 16, 2008 15:33:47	Read the first post and the second post, then posted that out of sheer boredom. So, the second reason, then. Like I said... Dude, seriously? Weird you wouldn't read the book. This guy looks like someone who likes to have other people do his work for him. I bet he either grew up on welfare or is on it now. Pretty much, though you have to give credit to the board that nobody really came out and gave him the answer, at least not anywhere near right away. Not even a page number. NovaCat gets excepted because he's been on the boards for over three years, so he's Resident Friendly Veteran. And before you have to ask, Tura and Zai don't get excepted because A) non-friendly posts; and B) Clearly aren't even contributing to the thread. Of course, I would have said it without the ad hominem, but, yeah. Can we Slash-Thread now?
#25 Novacat Aug 16, 2008 15:39:41	NovaCat gets excepted because he's been on the boards for over three years, so he's Resident Friendly Veteran. What's that supposed to mean? I'm not familiar with the term "Resident Friendly Veteran."
#26 Cohen95 Aug 16, 2008 21:45:32	What's that supposed to mean? I'm not familiar with the term "Resident Friendly Veteran." You were the first person to actually answer the question he was asking, where as the rest of us addressed what we perceived as a more basic problem- he paid ~$35 for an information source and wasn't thoroughly/correctly using it. "Resident Friendly Veteran" is a generic label for someone who's been around long enough that they're way over the ego-duels, and simple offers people genuine, relevant, accurate, and solid advice, almost always without snarkiness or disrespect. Active participlation, polite demeanor, experienced advice. Resident Friendly Veteran. Total compliment. Perhaps Cool Old Guy is a more recognizable trope?