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#1
Demetri_Knighthawk
Mar 29, 2008 0:25:47 I put this in players what to do as it is more of a creativity exercise than an actual character build... for now.

centaur cleric to kord 1/barbarian 7/warhulk 10, titan minor bloodline(1level)
start with an 18 strength, add any racial bonus, patron bonus +2 strength, +1 bloodline strength, +20 strength warhulk levels, +5 tome of strength, +6 item of strength, rage bonus... What else am I missinng?
#2
crow04
Mar 29, 2008 1:16:03 an infinite loop.
#3
Demetri_Knighthawk
Mar 29, 2008 3:10:13 not dounting the pun-pun path, am I missing any other str bonus?
#4
the_black_hand
Mar 29, 2008 9:54:03
not dounting the pun-pun path, am I missing any other str bonus?

Yes, alot of them. So far you have used up Inherint, and Enhancement bonuses.

There is still Unnamed, Profane, Divine, the good version of Profane (forget what it's called right now. and no Divine doesn't mean its a "good" bonus it means it's a bonus granted by a diety), Luck bonus.

Now to make an item that gives a Strength bonus other then enhancement you have you have double the price of the item. (these rules are in your DMG)
#5
m-bark
Mar 29, 2008 9:58:06 You could slap on some templates that have a total LA that you could buy off before level 20.
#6
guardian1
Mar 29, 2008 14:47:09 What about the Paragon template from the ELH? One of the many things is gives is a +15 bonus to all abilities. No, I'm not joking.
#7
half_dragon_infernal
Mar 29, 2008 17:06:52 the opposite of profane is sacred.
#8
Tovec
Mar 29, 2008 17:15:51 Well, you could get higher (without items) if you changed race.

Take my Ogreon build. He is a ECL 10, level 1 barbarian, half-dragon half-ogre.
At ECL 10 he has STR 40 when raging.
Add to that as many levels as you want of warhulk and you just increased your basic STR bonus a bunch. Then add those items. Etc.
#9
half_dragon_infernal
Mar 29, 2008 17:28:15 One more thing: THIS MUST BE MOVED TO THE THEORETICAL OPTIMIZATION BOARD OR IMPLODE!!!!1!!!!11!!!!!!111!
#10
calronmoonflower
Mar 29, 2008 20:03:33 Festering anger + cancer mage = ever increasing strength.
#11
crimsondeath
Mar 30, 2008 0:03:26 The Hulking Hurler thread on the TO board ought to have the highest non-infinite, non-arbitrarily high carrying capacity for an ECL 20 character, or close to it. That should be pretty close to the highest possible non-infinite, non-arbitrarily high strength as well.
#12
drackthor
Mar 30, 2008 0:51:10
Well, you could get higher (without items) if you changed race.

Take my Ogreon build. He is a ECL 10, level 1 barbarian, half-dragon half-ogre.
At ECL 10 he has STR 40 when raging.
Add to that as many levels as you want of warhulk and you just increased your basic STR bonus a bunch. Then add those items. Etc.

And can hit the ground he's standing on with a 15 or higher. ;P
#13
the_black_hand
Mar 30, 2008 18:58:13
the opposite of profane is sacred.

Thanks, I for some reason keep on forgetting this..

I have have done a house rule that if any character has a Profane bonus of any type they can not receave a Sacred bonus of any type, and vice versa.
#14
the_black_hand
Mar 30, 2008 19:01:29
What about the Paragon template from the ELH? One of the many things is gives is a +15 bonus to all abilities. No, I'm not joking.

This template is basically viewed as cheese by everyone. The LA needed for this to balance it out is insane. (+15 is the low estimate , with +18 being the median, and +20 being the high end)
#15
hellsbells
Mar 30, 2008 19:07:46 were is warhulk from?
#16
Demetri_Knighthawk
Mar 30, 2008 19:24:11
were is warhulk from?

miniatures handbook, its a fighter class that requires large character, they get 0 BAB bonus for all 10 levels, but they get +2 str per level, technicly still getting a +1 to hit per level , but its through the str bonus, not skill.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Demetri_Knighthawk Mar 29, 2008 0:25:47	I put this in players what to do as it is more of a creativity exercise than an actual character build... for now. centaur cleric to kord 1/barbarian 7/warhulk 10, titan minor bloodline(1level) start with an 18 strength, add any racial bonus, patron bonus +2 strength, +1 bloodline strength, +20 strength warhulk levels, +5 tome of strength, +6 item of strength, rage bonus... What else am I missinng?
#2 crow04 Mar 29, 2008 1:16:03	an infinite loop.
#3 Demetri_Knighthawk Mar 29, 2008 3:10:13	not dounting the pun-pun path, am I missing any other str bonus?
#4 the_black_hand Mar 29, 2008 9:54:03	not dounting the pun-pun path, am I missing any other str bonus? Yes, alot of them. So far you have used up Inherint, and Enhancement bonuses. There is still Unnamed, Profane, Divine, the good version of Profane (forget what it's called right now. and no Divine doesn't mean its a "good" bonus it means it's a bonus granted by a diety), Luck bonus. Now to make an item that gives a Strength bonus other then enhancement you have you have double the price of the item. (these rules are in your DMG)
#5 m-bark Mar 29, 2008 9:58:06	You could slap on some templates that have a total LA that you could buy off before level 20.
#6 guardian1 Mar 29, 2008 14:47:09	What about the Paragon template from the ELH? One of the many things is gives is a +15 bonus to all abilities. No, I'm not joking.
#7 half_dragon_infernal Mar 29, 2008 17:06:52	the opposite of profane is sacred.
#8 Tovec Mar 29, 2008 17:15:51	Well, you could get higher (without items) if you changed race. Take my Ogreon build. He is a ECL 10, level 1 barbarian, half-dragon half-ogre. At ECL 10 he has STR 40 when raging. Add to that as many levels as you want of warhulk and you just increased your basic STR bonus a bunch. Then add those items. Etc.
#9 half_dragon_infernal Mar 29, 2008 17:28:15	One more thing: THIS MUST BE MOVED TO THE THEORETICAL OPTIMIZATION BOARD OR IMPLODE!!!!1!!!!11!!!!!!111!
#10 calronmoonflower Mar 29, 2008 20:03:33	Festering anger + cancer mage = ever increasing strength.
#11 crimsondeath Mar 30, 2008 0:03:26	The Hulking Hurler thread on the TO board ought to have the highest non-infinite, non-arbitrarily high carrying capacity for an ECL 20 character, or close to it. That should be pretty close to the highest possible non-infinite, non-arbitrarily high strength as well.
#12 drackthor Mar 30, 2008 0:51:10	Well, you could get higher (without items) if you changed race. Take my Ogreon build. He is a ECL 10, level 1 barbarian, half-dragon half-ogre. At ECL 10 he has STR 40 when raging. Add to that as many levels as you want of warhulk and you just increased your basic STR bonus a bunch. Then add those items. Etc. And can hit the ground he's standing on with a 15 or higher. ;P
#13 the_black_hand Mar 30, 2008 18:58:13	the opposite of profane is sacred. Thanks, I for some reason keep on forgetting this.. I have have done a house rule that if any character has a Profane bonus of any type they can not receave a Sacred bonus of any type, and vice versa.
#14 the_black_hand Mar 30, 2008 19:01:29	What about the Paragon template from the ELH? One of the many things is gives is a +15 bonus to all abilities. No, I'm not joking. This template is basically viewed as cheese by everyone. The LA needed for this to balance it out is insane. (+15 is the low estimate , with +18 being the median, and +20 being the high end)
#15 hellsbells Mar 30, 2008 19:07:46	were is warhulk from?
#16 Demetri_Knighthawk Mar 30, 2008 19:24:11	were is warhulk from? miniatures handbook, its a fighter class that requires large character, they get 0 BAB bonus for all 10 levels, but they get +2 str per level, technicly still getting a +1 to hit per level , but its through the str bonus, not skill.