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#1 Colasixpack Mar 31, 2012 0:45:53	I just got back into D&D after about 20+ years.  So please excuse me asking a question that has been explained in the past.  If you all could help me with this, I'd appreciate it very much.  I am making a monk.  He will be a lvl 7 Monk and a 3 lvl Kensai.  Base attack is +7. I want to take the TWF Feat and the ITWF Feat on top of it.  I am debating with another player as to the the penalties.  I have read different views on this.   I will imbue his hands with +3 to attack.  His Str provides another +4.  Can you please just explain/show what my attacks would look like.  I would get 4 attacks, but we dont agree at what penalties and why.  I want to set it up like this: -1 for FoB (all attacks) -2 for TWF/light weapons (all attacks) -5 from ITWF (on 4th attack) and drop it to a -3, because they are light weapons. This would make my attacks look like this: +11 +11 +11 +8 Tell me where this is right and/or wrong please.
#2 Eisenritter Mar 31, 2012 0:50:55	Wrong.  TWF doesn't add attacks on top of Flurry.
#3 Colasixpack Mar 31, 2012 2:09:49	Wrong.  TWF doesn't add attacks on top of Flurry. I have read many debates on that as well and most saying that it does.  They referred to a FAQ here some where about that?
#4 Krusk Apr 01, 2012 9:28:03	TWF and flurry totally stack. Your BAB is +8. +5 from monk and +3 from Kensai. Flurry gives an extra attack at your highest, but all are at -1. TWF and Improved give a second attack for your highest and second highest and all are at -2. Your normal attack routine is +8/+3 on a full attack. If you flurry it is +7/+7/+2 (-1 to all, but an extra at highest) If you TWF but not Flurry it is +6/+6/+1/+1 (-2 to all, and an extra attack at both) If you do both it is +5/+5/+5/+0/+0      (-3 to all, two extra attacks at highest, and an extra attack at lowest) Add in your kensai bonuses, and Str bonuses of +7 for a total of +12/12/12/7/7.   If Kensai is medium BAB (IIRC its not) reduce my numbers by 1.   In the end you are wrong, and that is a good thing, you were shortselling yourself. What is your friend suggesting?    Also, the 3.5 FAQ can be found here. www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/200...   Relavent entry is below Show Can a monk fight with two weapons? Can she combine a two-weapon attack with a flurry of blows? What are her penalties on attack rolls? A monk can fight with two weapons just like any other character, but she must accept the normal penalties on her attack rolls to do so. She can use an unarmed strike as an offhand weapon. She can even combine two-weapon fighting with a flurry of blows to gain an extra attack with her off hand (but remember that she can use only unarmed strikes or special monk weapons as part of the flurry). The penalties for twoweapon fighting stack with the penalties for flurry of blows. For example, at 6th level, the monk Ember can normally make one attack per round at a +4 bonus. When using flurry of blows, she can make two attacks (using unarmed strikes or any special monk weapons she holds), each at a +3 bonus. If she wants to make an extra attack with her off hand, she has to accept a –4 penalty on her primary hand attacks and a –8 penalty on her off-hand attacks (assuming she wields a light weapon in her off hand). If Ember has Two-Weapon Fighting, she has to accept only a –2 penalty on all attacks to make an extra attack with her off hand. Thus, when wielding a light weapon in her off hand during a flurry of blows, she can make a total of three attacks, each at a total bonus of +1. At least one of these attacks has to be with her off-hand weapon. A 20th-level monk with Greater Two-Weapon Fighting can make eight attacks per round during a flurry of blows. Assuming she wields a light weapon in her off hand, her three off-hand weapon attacks are at +13/+8/+3, and she has five attacks (at +13/+13/+13/+8/+3) with unarmed strikes or any weapons she carries in her primary hand. If the same monk also has Rapid Shot and throws at least one shuriken as part of her flurry of blows (since Rapid Shot can be used only with ranged attacks), she can throw one additional shuriken with her primary hand, but all of her attacks (even melee attacks) suffer a –2 penalty. Thus, her full attack array looks like this: +11/+11/+11/+11/+6/+1 primary hand (two must be with shuriken) and +11/+6/+1 off hand.