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My new Goliath!

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#1
gavner
Mar 23, 2008 21:35:33 Hey everyone!

I have wanted to play Dungeon and Dragons for awhile now and I just found a group of people to play with!
Hurrah!

Just a few questions for everyone.

I wanted to be a Goliath Monk (Just because I have my reasons ^^)

But I just read about a prestige class called Student Dragon. I was wondering what was the lowest level of monk I could be to switch over to Student Dragon.

(For some reason everyone making a character is starting out around level 14... I'll have to ask the DM later why.)

Also, any help determining Feats, skills, and abilities would be wonderful! :D

(If I posted this in the wrong forum. I'm sorry. I read the descriptions and this seemed to be the most suitable.)
#2
drmorganes
Mar 23, 2008 22:00:29 Please post where you read about the "Student Dragon" prestige class. Citing a page number would be helpful as well. Most prestige classes are designed to be entered at character level 6, assuming optimal availability of prerequisites.
#3
gavner
Mar 23, 2008 22:05:07 Ultimate Prestige Classes Volume 1 Page 43.

I think thats it.
#4
eldritch_lord
Mar 23, 2008 22:13:22
Ultimate Prestige Classes Volume 1 Page 43.

I think thats it.

It looks like that's a third-party book; if it is, chances are most people won't have it and you've have to post prerequisites and all that.
#5
gavner
Mar 23, 2008 22:16:40 Ah, if it is a third party book. Would it be too much to ask for you to give me recommendations of a prestige class for my monk? (I do have 2 requirements for feats that I must have :D Fling and Fling Ally. Me and my Gnomish friend have a plan!)
#6
trapspringer
Mar 23, 2008 22:39:22 Master Thrower (CW)?
#7
gavner
Mar 23, 2008 22:43:57
Master Thrower (CW)?

What is that exactly?
#8
Twilyte
Mar 23, 2008 22:54:14 War Hulk (Miniatures Handbook)(if possible, I can't remember whether my group house-ruled to allow it or not)

Even if not possible, it's easy enough to get an enlarge person spell cast on you with permanence in order to qualify.
#9
gavner
Mar 23, 2008 22:59:22 I dont think he let me borrow that one, can you post the details?
#10
Twilyte
Mar 23, 2008 23:04:23
I dont think he let me borrow that one, can you post the details?

Gotta love book previews
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20030914a

EDIT: I also suggest these feats in no particular order (from a character I made to emulate 'Yarp' from Hot Fuzz):
Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack, Cleave, Improved Initiative, Powerful Charge, Greater Powerful Charge, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Fling Enemy
#11
jage
Mar 23, 2008 23:50:12
(For some reason everyone making a character is starting out around level 14... I'll have to ask the DM later why.)

My understanding, having recently returned to D&D is that in 3.5 the lowest levels are hard to play and character death is likely. 14 seems to be the high part of the "sweet spot", so you get all the goodies out of the box but you're not quite in "save or die" territory where it again stops being fun for a lot of people. 10 actually seems to be a pretty common starting level for the same reasons (things are just starting to get cool...)

Part of the whole 4e thing is supposed to be expanding the sweet spot to cover levels 1 through 20 instead of like 4 through 16, but regardless nobody seems to want to play from level 1 much... I'm sure there are a bunch of other reasons I just wanted to give you my take as I expected to come back and start a level 1 character too.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 gavner Mar 23, 2008 21:35:33	Hey everyone! I have wanted to play Dungeon and Dragons for awhile now and I just found a group of people to play with! Hurrah! Just a few questions for everyone. I wanted to be a Goliath Monk (Just because I have my reasons ^^) But I just read about a prestige class called Student Dragon. I was wondering what was the lowest level of monk I could be to switch over to Student Dragon. (For some reason everyone making a character is starting out around level 14... I'll have to ask the DM later why.) Also, any help determining Feats, skills, and abilities would be wonderful! :D (If I posted this in the wrong forum. I'm sorry. I read the descriptions and this seemed to be the most suitable.)
#2 drmorganes Mar 23, 2008 22:00:29	Please post where you read about the "Student Dragon" prestige class. Citing a page number would be helpful as well. Most prestige classes are designed to be entered at character level 6, assuming optimal availability of prerequisites.
#3 gavner Mar 23, 2008 22:05:07	Ultimate Prestige Classes Volume 1 Page 43. I think thats it.
#4 eldritch_lord Mar 23, 2008 22:13:22	Ultimate Prestige Classes Volume 1 Page 43. I think thats it. It looks like that's a third-party book; if it is, chances are most people won't have it and you've have to post prerequisites and all that.
#5 gavner Mar 23, 2008 22:16:40	Ah, if it is a third party book. Would it be too much to ask for you to give me recommendations of a prestige class for my monk? (I do have 2 requirements for feats that I must have :D Fling and Fling Ally. Me and my Gnomish friend have a plan!)
#6 trapspringer Mar 23, 2008 22:39:22	Master Thrower (CW)?
#7 gavner Mar 23, 2008 22:43:57	Master Thrower (CW)? What is that exactly?
#8 Twilyte Mar 23, 2008 22:54:14	War Hulk (Miniatures Handbook)(if possible, I can't remember whether my group house-ruled to allow it or not) Even if not possible, it's easy enough to get an enlarge person spell cast on you with permanence in order to qualify.
#9 gavner Mar 23, 2008 22:59:22	I dont think he let me borrow that one, can you post the details?
#10 Twilyte Mar 23, 2008 23:04:23	I dont think he let me borrow that one, can you post the details? Gotta love book previews http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20030914a EDIT: I also suggest these feats in no particular order (from a character I made to emulate 'Yarp' from Hot Fuzz): Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack, Cleave, Improved Initiative, Powerful Charge, Greater Powerful Charge, Improved Critical (Unarmed), Fling Enemy
#11 jage Mar 23, 2008 23:50:12	(For some reason everyone making a character is starting out around level 14... I'll have to ask the DM later why.) My understanding, having recently returned to D&D is that in 3.5 the lowest levels are hard to play and character death is likely. 14 seems to be the high part of the "sweet spot", so you get all the goodies out of the box but you're not quite in "save or die" territory where it again stops being fun for a lot of people. 10 actually seems to be a pretty common starting level for the same reasons (things are just starting to get cool...) Part of the whole 4e thing is supposed to be expanding the sweet spot to cover levels 1 through 20 instead of like 4 through 16, but regardless nobody seems to want to play from level 1 much... I'm sure there are a bunch of other reasons I just wanted to give you my take as I expected to come back and start a level 1 character too.