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| #1deviantdragonflyMar 30, 2009 14:15:51 | As a newborn I must learn to crawl before I may walk. My adventures through Dungeons and Dragons while exciting have been few granting me through inexperience the position within any party that of a second rate player, often making trivial mistakes or miscalculations. I most humbly beseech you for your help using your infinite wisdom of the Dungeons and Dragons universe. Help expand my knowledge so that I may never taste the feeling over uselessness again, help expand my resolve so that I may succeed when others cannot. -DeviantDragonfly I have already beseeched Eldritch_Lord for help reguarding the matter and await their response, though I would like to beseech any of those willing to help me, as many of us have come to know there is strength in numbers. Simply put my needs are more based off the game engine than that of actual role playing. Many of the problems I encounter are within character optimization and the mathematics behind character optimization. Many can play the game but very few can truly build a character, maximizing it's ever asset to the needs of the campaign, the DM, and the player. I would like help broadening my knowledge of building characters in order to perfect my game play. In order to for you to further help me I must explain that I have these last several months lacked the funds to purchase books for the fourth edition receiving only the Player Handbook II as an engagement gift for my fiance who believes the game is an utter waste of time and money, which to me make the gift ironic. |
| #2the_jewMar 30, 2009 14:25:09 | If you post more focused questions I can help at this current state of the question, I have trouble grasping what you know and what you don't know. This lack of information of course makes it very difficult to help you. If you have any focused questions feel free to ask and I will answer to the best of my ability. |
| #3ShiftkittyMar 30, 2009 14:33:46 | So do you want to be a better player, or to be more sesquipedalian? If it's the latter, I'd recommend www.dictionary.com. If it's the former, you need to do more than just sit there and roll dice when it's your turn. You can do that in Monopoly. This is D&D, and you need to pretend that you're actually in the Caves of Chaos and not just sitting around a kitchen table knocking back Jolts. When it's your turn, don't just say "Okay, my guy does x." Speak in first person and go for broke. "I'm gonna launch a Fireball up his wazoo!" That'd be a start. |
| #4ciaranMar 30, 2009 14:43:16 | Read the Player's Handbook. I find the chapters on skills and combat still reveal new information year after year. What class or role within your party are you playing? |
| #5deviantdragonflyMar 30, 2009 15:11:41 | My apologies for my earlier post I was dealing with a sick daughter, never very fun. Basically I have the role playing aspect down pat I need more help with building character to their max potential and the mathmatics of the game. |
| #6KerrusMar 30, 2009 15:12:49 | Verily it is not necessary to speak with the transitory inflections of one donning the mantle of a scholarly fop. Indeed, it is a rare occasion that one with purple prose such as thyself commits to the seeking of knowledge within our midst. Whilst I would enact every action to aid you on your valiant quest, I would, but first, request that mayhap you take to the viewing of the myriad selection of informational indices contained within this forum. Truly there exists much knowledge to be sought, but in the selfsame manner, it drifts but an eye's subtle glance away. Wouldest thou be interested in the thousand fold collection of suggestions on the matter of survival? or perhaps thine repetroire would be better suited to the collection of the dialogues that are most humourous- a collection I myself, in mine travels, have found most useful. Though in abbeyance with the wishes of my elders, I would surely request that mayhap it could do you well to provide further details on the sort of knowledge you wish to procure. While it is admirable to see, especially in this era, the seeking of knowledge from those lacking in formal training, it nevertheless leaves us at a loss of purpose without directives of a specific nature. Verily, on this day, Monday of the glorious month March, of the year of thine most righteous pantheon 2009, I do hereby confirm that I have answered the questions of the operative seeker of knowledge to the best of mine own ability. |
| #7herald108Mar 30, 2009 15:39:46 | As a DM with many years of experience, I have found that introducing a new player to D&D is one of the greatest things about the game. For you, everything about the game is still new and mysterious. You have entered a world of magic and monsters -- these are the hallmarks of D&D. You (as a player) have a lot to learn, and this reflects in your new (low-level) PC. A new player's first encounter with a troll is usually quite interesting. For the veterans, it's a fairly mundane procedure. I suggest you simply learn-as-you-go. Your group, however, might demand an optimized character, finely tuned tactics or in-depth knowledge. If this is the case, then I agree with whatever Kerrus wrote. Have fun. |
| #8The_StrayMar 31, 2009 5:06:08 | Verily, I do inquire as to which edition of Dungeons & Dragons you have partaken. The third edition is characterized by a player's handbook that appears to be a tome of old, a brown cover with golden embellishments and an axe at the centre. The fourth edition strips away the veneer of pretension and offers a simple logo and an eye-snaring piece of artwork involving a human female of wizardly bent and fantasy proportions alongside a menacing dragon-like humanoid in thick plate armor wielding an impressive and wicked sword. |
| #9deviantdragonflyMar 31, 2009 5:45:50 | I have partaken the fourth edition of Dungeons and Dragons. |
| #10luzekeMar 31, 2009 6:58:11 | In truth (at least in my own humble opinion) the only real "secret" to optimizing well is not much of a secret at all. Just weigh and compare. When you build a character you have a lot of options (especially if you begin at a higher level) and it can seem like a lot to take in when wanting to optimize a character. But in truth you've got a big part down already since you've obviously had the "I think I made something wrong here" thought cross your mind. Otherwise you wouldn't probably make a thread about optimizing anyway. What you need to do is define what you want out of the character, and just go through the options and weigh the options against each other. Optimizers might argue that there is more to it than that, and there is. Just not when you start out. The more you get accustomed to making the best choices, the more attuned you will get to seeing what is beneficial where and what feats and powers interplay with each other. I assume you have your own phb, but if you don't. Get one. The character builder is great, but it doesn't show feats and such that you do not meet the requirements for. Patience is key, young grasshopper. ![]() |
| #11The_StrayMar 31, 2009 7:20:40 | I have partaken the fourth edition of Dungeons and Dragons. Then, perchance, you may want to download the free trial version of the Character Builder. The Free version only goes up to level 3 on the classes presented, but it presents a good opportunity for you to quickly and easily compare and contrast options. It will provide you with hours of practice creating characters. A subscription for DDI for a month will allow you do download an update for the full version, which allows you to create characters from all the current sources to date and for all levels of play. |
| #12saintkeeleonMar 31, 2009 8:19:20 | Also, Double D, you may want to ask the folks at the character optimization boards as it seems that you wish to learn how to build the best character out there. They will be able to help you construct the proper character for every occasion. |
| #13doomsoughtMar 31, 2009 11:19:20 | For optimizing with fourth, do your base stats last, instead start with what classes you will be taking then go through the powers. Try to select those that use mostly the same primary stat. then go back an make that stat your highest then go down in order of how much that stat will be used. Anything beyond this requires a deviant mind and a college course in statistics. Remember though, if your character is too powerful it becomes unplayable. But still it is fun to go in to the theoretical optimization forums some times. |