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| #1angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 20:29:20 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. Anyone ever have a similar in-game experience like this? (I doubt it, but had to ask.) My companions do not know it yet. How should I go about explaining the sitch? We recently rescued over 60 men from a fey lord's enthrallment without any fighting, and our reward will be big! Anything I should request that would ensure my survival? ANY advice, tips, and stuff would be appreciated. (FYI, we are all 4th level.) |
| #2NovacatAug 26, 2008 20:53:10 | Woah... that's... special. No, I've never encountered anything like that in a game, though I do think you should seriously look at Demigod as an Epic Destiny. Half-reward, half-side-effect of being pregnant with a god. Curious, why does a mortal have to carry the child to term? As for a reward from the men... maybe a "Baby On-Board" flag for your rod? |
| #3sirkaikillahAug 26, 2008 21:09:31 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. WOW, in game PC pregnancy is new to me. WOW! |
| #4sirkaikillahAug 26, 2008 21:13:29 | Make the rest of the group dinner. Afterwards while everyone is sipping courvasialle (misspelled sue me), drop the bomb on them, "I'm pregnant" watch the jaws drop. :OMG! that should be a lot of fun to play. |
| #5NovacatAug 26, 2008 21:13:52 | WOW, in game PC pregnancy is new to me. WOW! Well, I've heard of it, but only in theory. I've never actually seen it happen in-game. |
| #6lokathorAug 26, 2008 21:14:45 | Just don't adventure. It'll really make your god irate with your soul if you die. Alternately, ask for one of those deity granted time manipulations so that X months passes within X days. Who's to say the gestation period of a demigod in the first place? |
| #7angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 21:26:14 | Yeah, I should go into Demigod as my Epic Destiny, since the pregnancy will have the fey child's blood intermingling with mine. But are fey lords that go into a pact with warlocks god-like? IDK. But yeah, this is gonna be a very interesting roleplaying experience. I don't her to stop adventuring though. Like Xena during her pregnancy, I want my feylock to keep fighting "big bad meanies". I just do not relish the idea of her waddling around during the final months. Good thing I have her teleporting and such. One last thing. If she is carrying a uber-magical child, wouldn't the child's power somehow blend with hers, or manifest in some way to protect her? I'll have to see as the game progresses. I might even start a baby thread that I will update after every session, haha. |
| #8NovacatAug 26, 2008 21:29:55 | Just don't adventure. It'll really make your god irate with your soul if you die. Unfortunately, this is what I would do, and for that very reason. Adventuring is nothing if not inherently dangerous, but you'd miss out on a ton of great role-playing opportunities. If there's no way to accelerate the pregnancy, then I would probably be unable to justify putting the baby at risk, and go into temporary retirement. Roll up a new character to take her place, and if that character dies, you have your other one on stand-by to catch up with the party, and likely with a great story to tell. |
| #9sirkaikillahAug 26, 2008 21:31:38 | ...One last thing. If she is carrying a uber-magical child, wouldn't the child's power somehow blend with hers, or manifest in some way to protect her? I'll have to see as the game progresses. Do you know if your carrying arround the Feywyldes baby Jesus? If so that is such a cool hook. Your Dm is super cool. |
| #10angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 21:32:34 | Curious, why does a mortal have to carry the child to term? The Old Ways of the Fey tend to do these sorts of things. If you watched Sam Neil's Merlin, Queen Mab created Merlin's spirit/essence inside a magic crystal and then impregnated a mortal woman to carry Merlin to term. It's a very close parallel. I am not entirely sure if Sisa'kofa's (my feylock) patron's lover is a mortal man or another fey being. As for a reward from the men... maybe a "Baby On-Board" flag for your rod? :heehee You want to know something funny? We are a party of 4 (pun intended), with three guys and one girl and once the baby's born, it's gonna be like "Three Men and a Baby". |
| #11lord_steel2025Aug 26, 2008 21:32:51 | Wow... was this something you as a player wanted? How are you going to handle playing? |
| #12grod_the_giantAug 26, 2008 21:35:05 | Well, you could play your increasing powers as you level up as due to the effect of your baby... |
| #13zillahAug 26, 2008 21:35:45 | man, i would start walking around doing dangerous stuff. No diety would let harm come to their kid. lol, just kidding. Um, don't stop adventuring...just do a ritual to make the time go by in a few days or something. idk. pop it out, let it start making mass chaos(assuming its evil fey) |
| #14sirkaikillahAug 26, 2008 21:36:22 | What would modivate your character to continue adventuring. Fey lord/ lady? Great threat to the Kingdom. Pressures beyond your character control? (i.e. trouble comes to you, like baby feywilds assassin's) |
| #15angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 21:42:50 | Wow... was this something you as a player wanted? No, it was the DM's idea, and it blew me out of the water when I found out during the after-session wrap-up. I am gonna have Sisa'kofa be like Xena while she was pregnant, kicking some evil ass. What would modivate your character to continue adventuring. Fey lord/ lady? Great threat to the Kingdom. Pressures beyond your character control? (i.e. trouble comes to you, like baby feywilds assassin's) Getting back home to Oerth. A magical storm, cause by warring gods, blew us to another world (with refugees in tow). We are now currently exploring this strange new world where dragonborn exist and tieflings had their own empire. :P Secondly, there is the issue of ... POWER!!!:evillaugh |
| #16angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 21:49:04 | Damn, I think my other post was unread, due to me writing it while others were posting, lol. |
| #17grod_the_giantAug 26, 2008 21:51:33 | Oh, I forgot: have your party wizard see if he can create a ritual to automatically deliver the baby without all the huffing and puffing. Oh, and watch out for your DM having you come to term (?) at a vital climax. |
| #18angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 22:01:11 | Oh, I forgot: have your party wizard see if he can create a ritual to automatically deliver the baby without all the huffing and puffing. Oh, and watch out for your DM having you come to term (?) at a vital climax. With my luck, her water will break as the dragon starts initiative. ![]() |
| #19NovacatAug 26, 2008 22:10:22 | Out of curiosity, are you a female, or just your character? I would imagine playing a female character as a male would be hard enough without the complications of being pregnant. As a bonus, have you ever been pregnant? If so, that's great, because you already know how to act at different stages. |
| #20angelus_obscuraAug 26, 2008 23:45:24 | Out of curiosity, are you a female, or just your character? I would imagine playing a female character as a male would be hard enough without the complications of being pregnant. As a bonus, have you ever been pregnant? If so, that's great, because you already know how to act at different stages. No, it's just my character. Unlike Elminster, I have never been a woman. But yes, it is challenging to play a female character. However, some character classes (such as sorcerer, cleric, bards) work so much better as females. And the benefits are great, like being underestimated, overlooked, and just plain lucky in surviving almost anything. :P |
| #21NovacatAug 26, 2008 23:48:59 | No, it's just my character. Unlike Elminster, I have never been a woman. In that case, do you know someone who is pregnant, so you can get notes on how to replicate their psychosis? Because I'm pretty certain that no male can accurately emulate the insanity that is the pregnant woman without help. |
| #22dirtyfrankAug 26, 2008 23:58:54 | I would also suggest doing a lot of research about pregnancy, such as when the stomach starts to expand, morning sickness, cravings, pains, mood swings and when these things all happen. |
| #23warweaverAug 27, 2008 0:02:05 | In that case, do you know someone who is pregnant, so you can get notes on how to replicate their psychosis? Because I'm pretty certain that no male can accurately emulate the insanity that is the pregnant woman without help. Hoo...it's a good thing this wasn't posted in Astrid's... ![]() |
| #24NovacatAug 27, 2008 0:14:12 | Hoo...it's a good thing this wasn't posted in Astrid's... It's OK. It's hard to flying-kick me through the internet, otherwise I'd be hiding too. |
| #25Enlightened1Aug 27, 2008 0:26:17 | A couple notes on pregnancy (disclaimer: I'm not a woman, nor have I ever been pregnant - this is just based on experience and observation, including but not limited to my wife's pregnancy and delivery): -- For someone who is healthy and athletic, IRL, pregnancy need not seriously impact performance for several months. Yes, if you're a tennis star or something, you'll notice sooner than later. But it doesn't hamper most activities until at least three or four months. (As an aside, I recall my wife actually being pleased when her periods stopped, since she didn't have to deal with pads or anything.) You certainly won't be waddling around until 6+ months, more likely 8 months. And in fantasy, you can have Xena, who could kick much buttocks until darn near delivery. -- I can't assess how fighting would be, but a warlock is going to stay out of melee anyway, right? -- Not everyone gets morning sickness; it's highly variable and idiosyncratic; many women suffer none or almost none. In most cases, it fades after the first few weeks, so your GM shouldn't impose it every day for all nine months. -- Many women get occasional odd food cravings. The impression I got is that a lot of them really amount to your body signaling that it needs some particular set of nutrients which aren't normally in your diet in sufficient quantities. The 'pickles and ice cream' stereotype is more joke than reality, but there are sudden odd cravings that crop up. (I think this could be played to great fun given a feylord-implanted fetus; the cravings could get very wierd indeed!) -- The TV-show delivery, where the water breaks and the baby pops out a few desperate minutes later, isn't real (except maybe in really rare cases). The actual delivery takes several hours to develop - it could take 24 hours or less from first pangs to actual birth. -- With a little arcane/divine help to parallel modern medicine (perhaps more effective in some ways!), mom can be up and about with little more than some soreness after a few days. Of course, there's all kinds of stuff like post-partum depression, fatigue from infant care, etc., etc., but that's another ting entirely. Of course, if the feylord or whatever claims the baby immediately after birth, a lot of those issues are reduced or at least seriously altered from normal experience. All in all, the actual time your character is significantly impaired (physically) could be no more than a few weeks, shortly before and a week or two after birth - a tiem slot that could easily be passed over between adventures, as PCs go shopping, rest up, train, etc. etc., so it need not even be a major interruption in an adventuring career. So, that's an old married dad 's/GM's view of PC pregnancy - highly skewed by individual experience and fantasy gaming. |
| #26NovacatAug 27, 2008 0:32:46 | Of course, if the feylord or whatever claims the baby immediately after birth, a lot of those issues are reduced or at least seriously altered from normal experience. What if, say, your character develops an attachment to the baby, and refuses to give it up? That could make for an interesting adventure of its own. |
| #27balcinokAug 27, 2008 1:25:15 | Secondly, there is the issue of ... POWER!!! It's my personal experience that it goes OVER 9000!! ...I saw the word power....and I couldn't stop myself....I-I have a problem don't I? And in the serious note of, "Has this happened in your games?" oddly enough just recently. My sister's character has been impregnated with the anti-christ of the realm, so it's rather serendipitous that I saw this thread around now. |
| #28angelus_obscuraAug 27, 2008 1:30:14 | -- Many women get occasional odd food cravings. The impression I got is that a lot of them really amount to your body signaling that it needs some particular set of nutrients which aren't normally in your diet in sufficient quantities. The 'pickles and ice cream' stereotype is more joke than reality, but there are sudden odd cravings that crop up. (I think this could be played to great fun given a feylord-implanted fetus; the cravings could get very wierd indeed!) WOW! Thanks! our post helped alot. I can;t wait for the odd food cravings. I can picture my character craving four-leaf clovers, lucky charms (the cereal), skittles, and magic 'schrooms! lol What if, say, your character develops an attachment to the baby, and refuses to give it up? That could make for an interesting adventure of its own. I'll worry about that 9 months later. ;) And in the serious note of, "Has this happened in your games?" oddly enough just recently. Maybe, our babies will go halo-to-horn in future games? ![]() |
| #29VorpalBunnyAug 27, 2008 1:47:16 | One of my characters once got pregnant from one of the other party members once. She really didn't see much point in giving up the adventure's life till late-term (she stayed in back anyway) and was generally physically fit (so she'd be able to handle the extra physical stress). Sadly a poorly-worded Wish from a Ring of 3 Wishes altered the time-line so that the pregnancy-inducing tryst never occurred. That being said, it should be a rewarding RP experience. I wish you luck VB |
| #30warweaverAug 27, 2008 2:39:07 | Also a good thing is that this is in a 4e game - since they haven't reprinted Heroes of Horror in 4e rules, you don't have to worry about the Unholy Scion template. Scary! ![]() |
| #31jutterAug 27, 2008 6:48:19 | I wouldn't bother to much about a 'realistic' approach of pregnancy. It doesn't sound like anyone in your gaming group has real-life experiences with it. So go with the stereotypes. Mood-swings and cravings, for example. That should be recognisable enough for everyone to catch on. Don't overdo it though: respect the spotlight.Hoo...it's a good thing this wasn't posted in Astrid's... Mwah. It would probably have degenerated into a women's rights discussion, with a topping of gay-emancipation, WAY before that remark was posted. By that time, most of us would probably have lost interest. Keep in mind the thread was already going strong for 3,5 hours before Novacat posted that comment. That's a very long time to stay with the original topic on that board ;) |
| #32kistraAug 27, 2008 8:49:55 | I would also suggest doing a lot of research about pregnancy, such as when the stomach starts to expand, morning sickness, cravings, pains, mood swings and when these things all happen. All highly variable. Some women show at 3 months, some show at 6 or 7. You can roleplay as much or as little of that stuff in as you want and it can vary day to day and still be perfectly realistic. We have a pregnant GMPC (by PC) in one game I am in. She's still adventuring with us and it hasn't really even been mentioned that much to be honest. (and still rolling 20's 90% of the time - but that is a different matter:rolleyes We did get a 'premonition' that there will be a kidnapping attempt during the birth, but that is about it. |
| #33ArmisaelAug 27, 2008 9:07:27 | Ahem... May I suggest something? This could be an inspiration for you. |
| #34dirtyfrankAug 27, 2008 9:24:59 | Great comic strip. ![]() |
| #35ethilristAug 27, 2008 10:27:34 | Curious, why does a mortal have to carry the child to term? Subcontracting. All the cool kids are doing it. I've seen this happen in a Champions campaign. If this was the DMs idea, find a graceful way to point out that unduly screwing over your character will not be appreciated. |
| #36ViolenceJackAug 27, 2008 11:11:06 | I (a guy, if that wasn't clear from my handle) typically play female characters. Had one Wood Elf in a 2E game that had a ludicrous strength score (man, she was fun). She ended up engaged to and pregnant by one of the NPCs, the local weaponsmith. She continued adventuring, and thanks to some fun RP and good rolls, managed to do a few cool things tossing around anybody that got too close to her. From the beginning it was a little silly; left without equipment on some island full of dangerous beasties, she had a tendency to use goblins as improvised clubs. When your strength score is 19, the DM and I agreed that this was cool. Did I mention I was like... 17 at the time? Anyway, the game crumbled before the pregnancy was carried to term. It was a very Xena-like pregnancy, though this was before that season of Xena. Loads of fun to play it out though. |
| #37WinterleafAug 27, 2008 13:21:32 | No, it was the DM's idea, and it blew me out of the water when I found out during the after-session wrap-up. Woot. Perfect answer. Ignore the inevitable biology lessons. Go for what appeals to you and the group dramatically. |
| #38sirkaikillahAug 27, 2008 13:32:17 | I wouldn't bother to much about a 'realistic' approach of pregnancy. It doesn't sound like anyone in your gaming group has real-life experiences with it. So go with the stereotypes. Mood-swings and cravings, for example. That should be recognisable enough for everyone to catch on. Don't overdo it though: respect the spotlight. That is how I would approach it. If you have no experience being pregnant, then your just winging it. Why worry about making your gaming performance realisitc. Your playing a heroic adventuress, a pregnant heroic adventures, in a heroic adventire game, keep that focus. Stick with stereotypes everyone will recognize, enjoy the game play. When playng stereotypes it is always important not to overdue it. |
| #39bblytheAug 27, 2008 13:49:37 | I always thought that would be a good hook for a good part, or a PC that wants to go from neutral to good. Doing something along the lines of the movie Children of Men. Since game sessions can have a lot of IC time between them or a little its possible to make the whole process detailed or you can wrap it up in a few game sessions. There are a lot of really good hooks for adventures. I don't want to offend anyone but one of the most influential figures in our society started with an adventure from Nazareth to Bethlehem. Another Biblical story is Moses in the reeds. Imagine a party returning from the Keep on the Shadowfell only to find the scion of a lost a duke abandoned. That could be a good segway for causing the group to travel to other locations. Achilles' mother journeyed to the River Styx to wash her baby in the water. I think it’s very cool, and if handled maturely can be a really unique experience. I mean, what better way to show the epic heroes defending the weak than a dude (or lady) dressed in full plate, wielding a magic sword and a baby? (please note baby should be unequipped immediately before or immediately after any initiative roll.) In the end you have a tangible reward too, an NPC with an outrageous CHA score; you have to change its diaper though. I am sure mom will have a boat load of XP afterwards too! I mean, talk about quest completion xp! ![]() Thanks for playing, :§Ben |
| #40ViolenceJackAug 27, 2008 14:11:24 | Just remembered another plot in an RPG involving one of my characters and children. It was a Star Wars game, and I was playing a Bimm (diminutive near-human... think halfling) soldier. She had been part of her homeworlds stellar system defense. Patrolling the solar system, keeping an eye on traffic. She was the gunner. I'd written up a bit of a history that involved a layabout husband who eventually got into gambling and heavy debts. The loan sharks eventually murdered him to set an example, and my character felt obligated to get revenge, even though they were functionally separated and she no longer really had any feelings for him. It ended up in situation wherein we learned that the Hutt who was in charge of those particular loan sharks had also wiped my character's memory of the last two years in the guard, involving her daughter. Meaning my character had a daughter she didn't even know about. Fast forwarding the adventure, everybody in the party happily took a Dark Side point for killing the Hutt as he begged for mercy. Her daughter was then kidnapped (all very ludicrous, no?) by the major bad guy, who thought she was the child of prophesy who would be particularly strong in the Dark Side and wanted to use her to destroy the remaining Jedi. Good campaign, if a bit melodramatic. In other words: go for the cool story, it always trumps realism. |
| #41caradriusAug 27, 2008 14:23:36 | Oh man, one of the craziest moments in a campeign a few years ago. We had an epic dragon fight. 10 characters (2 per player), 2 high level NPCs, lvl 17 vrs an ancient black dragon, 3.5e. One of the PCs was a female rogue, and she turned out to be the MVP of the fight. the Dragon had a pet Kraken, and she actually dived into the water to shank it for hundreds of damage with sneak attack. Then, she pops out of the water, and delivers the killing blow to the dragon. Then, while we are mourning the dead, oohhing and ahhing over the treasure, :D and whooping over the victory, she announces, "BTW, I'm pregnant!" ![]() Her character hadn't wanted any special treatment on such a high risk mission. :D |
| #42angelus_obscuraAug 27, 2008 14:35:34 | Ahem... Yes, I saw the strip awhile ago. It always struck me as weird that the OOTS comic seemed to follow what happens to me in games. Coincidence? I've seen this happen in a Champions campaign. If this was the DMs idea, find a graceful way to point out that unduly screwing over your character will not be appreciated. I am pretty sure he's not screwing me over. The pregnancy is the price for saving me from another fey lord's wrath. I (a guy, if that wasn't clear from my handle) typically play female characters. Had one Wood Elf in a 2E game that had a ludicrous strength score (man, she was fun). She ended up engaged to and pregnant by one of the NPCs, the local weaponsmith. I'm glad I'm not the only transvirtual player with a similar experience. :P I think it’s very cool, and if handled maturely can be a really unique experience. I mean, what better way to show the epic heroes defending the weak than a dude (or lady) dressed in full plate, wielding a magic sword and a baby? But, didn't Xena fight with baby in one hand and sword in the other? And if she needed two hands free, why, she just threw the baby into the air, did her warrior princess moves, and caught the baby in time. Lol, I jest. If the situation calls for it, the baby will be safely tucked away. However, As I am playing a ranged, teleporting feylock, the baby will always be with its surrogate mother. And it helps that our tiefling wizard seems to attract most of the trouble in combat. ![]() And I would like to reassure everyone that the pregnancy will be handled tastefully and with maturity. However, that doesn't mean I will be not be using some of the pregnancy stereotypes. :angelhide And the rewards! Ohhhh yessss! ![]() |
| #43lindistyAug 27, 2008 18:11:12 | Anyone ever have a similar in-game experience like this? (I doubt it, but had to ask.) As a matter of fact, yes. I once had a DM who thought it would be a wonderful plot twist to have my character (half-elf/half-dryad druid. What? It was my first D&D game and I was young and stupid) impregnated by Pazuzu. After a months-long build up, there ensued an epic battle to save the world from the demon child, who ended up dead by my hand, if I recall correctly. It was... not the kind of campaign I'd choose to play in again, though it made for some gaming moments that are still the stuff of legend in that particular group. |
| #44hippokreneAug 27, 2008 18:13:02 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. :evillaugh I have nothing useful to add. |
| #45angelus_obscuraAug 28, 2008 12:45:20 | Just to let you guys know, the party consists of a human paladin (Heironeous), an old human cleric (Fharlanghn), tiefling wizard, and pregnant half-elf feylock. Should I tell them right away or should I wait? I'm pretty sure I can count on the paladin and cleric for support, not so sure about the tielfling. |
| #46the_wrath_of_talosAug 28, 2008 13:25:14 | It would be a good idea to tell them about the pregnancy but I'd leave out the part about it being a deities baby for now. I have one question though, what happens when the deity child kicks? |
| #47bblytheAug 28, 2008 15:21:02 | And I would like to reassure everyone that the pregnancy will be handled tastefully and with maturity. However, that doesn't mean I will be not be using some of the pregnancy stereotypes. :angelhide Those stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. Sword and sorcery high magic always have archetypes and stereotypes. The setting is kind of conducive to it, I mean there has always been a pulp quality to fantasy and that's what makes it cool frankly. Yes there can be subtle nuances and deep character depth and turmoil...but at the end of the day that dude (or chick) just killed like 30 people and only has a few scratches on them.... Thanks for playing, Ben |
| #48doomsoughtAug 28, 2008 20:46:09 | It will end up being Dex penalties near term, maybe some penalties to saves against fear... try getting if you can get levitank (magical hover tank) just some mythral armor with arrow slits and the magical propulsion source. |
| #49angelus_obscuraAug 28, 2008 21:03:19 | It will end up being Dex penalties near term, maybe some penalties to saves against fear... I agree, with the movement/reflex penalties. But I usually 'port around, so that's fine. As for the vulnerabilities of the flesh, I will make sure to get items that negate attacks, reduce damage, give temp hp, offer defense bonuses. Sadly, I got zip right now. I was returned to the Material Plane a la Daniel Jackson when he came back from ascension. Nekke, fetal position, with only her Blood Diary with her (ritual book). |
| #50sphyreAug 29, 2008 12:06:39 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. Sounds like something I'd enjoy roleplaying. As a ranged striker you'll be farther away from enemies, as you would probably want to protect the child, and not be thumped a billion times. I don't see anything other than taking a break from adventuring for 3 months after 6 months that would make you all that different, except for mood swings, and craving peanut butter and pineapple soup. Then you'd probably take some time off to raise it too.. Looks like your adventuring career is coming to an end if you don't plan on entrusting it to someone else' care. Nice tihng is that a good amount of adventuring can happen in 6 months. |
| #51gtoastAug 30, 2008 23:14:19 | Well, our group had something sortof similar... We played this particular campaign throughout high school, but when we went off to college we basically played when everyone came home for the summer. There were long breaks between playing out of game, so the DM advanced time in game as well. One of our PC's (himself an exiled prince) had a one-night-stand with some nobility from a race of gargoyles. Low and behold, several years later (both in and out of game) he finds out he fathered a son. By this time he was reinstated as prince to his people, and negotiated an alliance between them and the gargoyles. Throughout the campaign he would go back to check on his son and see to his protection. It got to be a fairly important plot point in the story, but because the PC was the dad who skipped town, and time advanced quickly in game between summers, we didn't have to deal with a lot of the details. |
| #52hiroshimahamsterSep 04, 2008 8:49:43 | In my new campaign at the moment, the monk/rogue with a vow of chastity started the game being 7 months pregnant :EEK. Before imposing this on my player, I spoke to her to see if she was willing to be part of this storyline and what she wanted to do when the child was born (this storyline was going to run anyway, but I wanted to find out how close the players would get to it). Turns out that the player was more than willing to run with this, and the looks on the others player's faces when they met her in game were priceless (if I do say so myself). I have left most of the gory pregnancy details up to her and she is proving to be wierdly amusing, if slightly scary... She intends to remain adventuring when the child arrives, regardless of if the child is a half-fiend or not (long story short, the vow of chastity was broken unwillingly, and the character cannot remember very much of that night except the fact that she killed the culprit. The player knows nothing, but has a 'funny feeling' that I would get her character impregnated with a demon child. She is way off the mark, but half the fun is her speculation...). To compensate for the obvious disadvantage the pregnancy would have, I have allowed her to have a 5th level character in a party of 1st levels, and she also has to care for a "6 year old girl" and continues to look for the last surviving members of her monastic order in order to pay for her atonement (the girl's true identity has to remain a secret in case my players look here; they already know she's a little wierd though). The player is roleplaying a character that, up until recently, was on the front line during combat but doesn't want to risk the baby's life and so hangs back using tactics and weapons that she never really used before. (Thus, her power level isn't much different to the other players on the face of it, except that the characters know she has been adventuring for about a year. Eventually, the other players will catch up in levels and the headstart in xp won't be much of a worry.) That was a long way of saying this: PC pregnancy can be a great way of introducing roleplaying opportunities and plotlines. All I can suggest is that you sort out with your DM what you want to happen when the child is near term - are you going to retire for a while? Are you going to carry on until the time comes? I know this sounds wierd, but does your DM require you to 'act out' the scene in which the child arrives, or will it go to cut-scene eg. "you're in labour"...some game time later: "the child is born"? Some DMs are a little strange about this kind of thing - I'm personally taking the cut-scene approach to avoid embarrassment... |
| #53maulornSep 04, 2008 11:06:56 | This is how you break it to the group. "I am secretly working for the BBEG. Just kidding, but I am pregnant...and on a side note I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico." |
| #54rowlSep 05, 2008 4:00:26 | I'd ask your GM what kind of statistical and mechanical penalties you're going to be looking at during your pregnancy. Suggestions... -2 Str & Dex at 6mo, -4 at 8 -2 mvmt at 6mo (waddling) -2 Int at 8mo (Iron deficiency) move action to change from sitting to standing; move & standard action to change from prone to standing at 6mo. PS - break it to the group about 2-3 weeks after sleeping with one of the other male characters. LOL Better yet, sleep with a couple of them after a night of serious drinking (of course, you're not actually drinking alcohol, but make them think you are). Then drama can ensue with the guys trying to figure out which one of them is the father and you don't have to actually start a relationship with any of them relying on the 'mistake of the moment' excuse. |
| #55dirtyfrankSep 05, 2008 9:11:25 | Wouldn't iron deficiency be a reduction to constitution and not intelligence? Saying that a pregnant woman has a intelligence penalty is basically saying that pregnant women are retarded. |
| #56rowlSep 07, 2008 3:59:18 | Wouldn't iron deficiency be a reduction to constitution and not intelligence? Saying that a pregnant woman has a intelligence penalty is basically saying that pregnant women are retarded. Iron deficiency can really mess up a person's mind. Their memory is severely affected and the ability to converse coherently as well as just perform basic tasks (because of memory issues) is also affected. It's like a short circuit in the brain or old-age senility. My wife got seriously messed up by it. |
| #57maulornSep 07, 2008 12:43:27 | They call it pregnancy because mad cow disease was already taken. |
| #58pyromancer999Sep 07, 2008 14:58:20 | Might I suggest incredibly Mood swings? Many of them? It is incredibly amusing |
| #59dirtyfrankSep 07, 2008 18:43:07 | Iron deficiency can really mess up a person's mind. Their memory is severely affected and the ability to converse coherently as well as just perform basic tasks (because of memory issues) is also affected. It's like a short circuit in the brain or old-age senility. Dehydration, poisons, and diseases can cause similar things. In 4E there should be no negatives to ability scores anyways. Instead there should be penalties to healing surges, skill checks, and ability checks. |
| #60angelus_obscuraSep 08, 2008 1:07:59 | Wow, the thread's still kicking. ![]() So I had my first session being pregnant. It was fun, in a down-beat sort of way. But it was my doing. I did not reveal her condition to the rest of the party, but I left clues with dry heaves in the morning and other sporadic times of the day. Not all women have severe pregnancy symptoms, but that doesn't mean it will be any easier. And since there is some time before her belly swells, I will break it to them gradually. The paladin remains clueless (go figure), wizard suspects, and our old cleric is inscrutable. I am not worried about nourishment issues. We have an everlasting provisions picnic basket, and soon enough, she will be consuming food for two. On a small related note, we rescued a nest of hippogriff egg+hatchlings after its mother died. It was the result of a horrible misunderstanding (involving irresponsible ignorant country folk), but we got ourselves some griffon babies. How ... ominous/lucky is that? I get to practice with a pet, LOL. |
| #61Draco_WhitewindSep 08, 2008 3:43:58 | First, I'd have my character go walk into a lake and drown, killing both her, and simtaneously aborting both the god child and the atrocious plot and heaps of railroading from beyond the curtain that would about to take place before the full blown suckatude kicked in. then I'd roll up a new character. |
| #62trissjSep 08, 2008 13:06:41 | First off, Enlightened1, that was a cool sum-uppery of pregnancy and labor. Secondly, if pregnant you don't have to "eat for two." You actually just need about 300 extra calories a day when pregnant (unless your monster baby has special caloric needs...I imagine your cravings would be beyond the normal scope of what is in that picnic basket, hehehe). I would skip all the unfortunate parts of pregnancy unless it is fun for you to play. And keep some crackers by your bedroll to stave off the morning sickness. Also, as far as fighting and keeping the baby around during fighting, you could reference the story of Fa Mu Lan, who actually masqueraded as a dude during her pregnancy (armor is wonderful that way). Also, "Lone Wolf and Cub" has some pretty awesome/deadly baby carriers. Other than that, I'd say have fun with it! I'm looking forward to hearing how it goes! |
| #63rowlSep 09, 2008 2:43:14 | Also, as far as fighting and keeping the baby around during fighting, you could reference the story of Fa Mu Lan, who actually masqueraded as a dude during her pregnancy (armor is wonderful that way). Also, "Lone Wolf and Cub" has some pretty awesome/deadly baby carriers. You're totally wrong!! The Disney movie didn't say anything about her being preggers!! :D |
| #64minja_dupSep 09, 2008 22:55:02 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. I had this happen to my Rogue back in the day, minus the whole immaculate god thing. ![]() I was pretty good at disguise in the beginning, then later on I took to staying on my mount as much as I could. In the last month, I did most of my work with a bow at a distance and alternated between sitting on a master work folding chair or being carried around on a litter by four retainers I hired. ![]() It was very funny. We had much fun, and once she was born, I really became a raging, scornful and vengeful death machine. ![]() |
| #65angelus_obscuraSep 10, 2008 12:00:50 | It was very funny. We had much fun, and once she was born, I really became a raging, scornful and vengeful death machine. Once the baby was born? You should be even more of a raging death machine while still pregnant! ![]() Btw, how long do horses take in growing up? Weeks, months? I need to know if my hippogriff hatchlings/egg can grow up in time to be used as a mount for her and the bun in the oven. |
| #66minja_dupSep 10, 2008 13:04:26 | Once the baby was born? You should be even more of a raging death machine while still pregnant! You are right. I should have said, MORE of a raging death machine. I was already kind of a before the pregnancy, anyway.Also, a high charisma coupled with social skills, coupled with healthy flirting, and a baby carriage equals a big plate of WIN everywhere you go. |
| #67crixonSep 11, 2008 12:47:39 | Once the baby was born? You should be even more of a raging death machine while still pregnant! lol dont count on it, thoroughbred horses for the race track begin training at around 2 years, most horses around 3 years when they are more developed, thats when i started mine for light saddle work and didnt really start heavier everyday riding till around 3 1/2 and 4 years old, but most get started by at least 3 with saddle work (ground work before that so they are ready) |
| #68pyromancer999Sep 11, 2008 17:38:37 | I didn't hear about any mood swings.... best part of playing a pregnancy, believe me, a certain druid i know did that, and the whole group had loads of fun with it |
| #69minja_dupSep 11, 2008 19:37:43 | I didn't hear about any mood swings.... best part of playing a pregnancy, believe me, a certain druid i know did that, and the whole group had loads of fun with it You are SOOO right, it was a blast! ![]() Some mornings I would get up and be making breakfast for the party, doing the whole motherly instinct thing, mending holes in cloaks and such. Then on other days I started to refuse to do things for the party, like search for secret doors, and pick locks unless they COMPLETELY bent to my whims. I even had the party carrying all kinds of exotic foods to feed me in order to keep me happy. :evillaugh This is bringing back so many fond memories. But my current character getting pregnant wouldn't really fit. Hmmm.... |
| #70kodiak3dSep 13, 2008 9:33:00 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. I hate seeing gods that just knock someone up like this. It's so hard to get them to pay child support later. :D |
| #71pyromancer999Sep 13, 2008 11:06:11 | gods don't pay child support in monies, they pay it in power. to the kiddies, that is. |
| #72minja_dupSep 13, 2008 16:43:05 | I hate seeing gods that just knock someone up like this. It's so hard to get them to pay child support later. :D And do they ever offer to pick up their kid after soccer practice? No, of course not, who has ever heard of carriage driving soccer-gods? ![]() |
| #73dirtyfrankSep 13, 2008 17:41:42 | If you are up to snuff on greek mythology then you would know that gods work like this. "I'm sorry for raping you, here's a gift so no hard feelings ...... Right?" :P |
| #74angelus_obscuraSep 14, 2008 22:38:35 | Funny thing happened in today's session. We were fighting a group of people-snatching Shadar-kai in a misty swamp. There were 4 of us and 1 kid. We had a tough battle, until things got desperate as our paladin fell and got carried away through the fog and our wizard was barely standing up as it is (in no condition to chase after, as our camp was in disarray with the panicking hippogriff babies and the boy's father insensate on the ground). I was busy wrestling the child into obedience, as he was turned into a Shadar-kai by cultists and brainwashed. I had no choice but to chase after the paladin-nappers, leaving the child to the tiefling wizard to handle. I ran into THE MIST (dun dun DUUUUUUHN!) 'til I caught up to the 2 Shadar-kai carrying our paladin. I felled one, and the other charged me. I was close to death, as I spent my second wind after he hit me. Crunch time. It was my final turn. Fight or flight. Cast a ranged spell and risk an OA or run away. I channeled my inner hero and rolled. He rolled a 3 on his OA and I "bit him in the eyes" for 14 damage, enough to kill the bloodied fool. It was tense. ![]() ![]() The weak, bloodied, and pregnant woman rescued the big, strong paladin. LOL. ![]() |
| #75angelus_obscuraSep 19, 2008 13:04:17 | Okay, game is coming up again. So far, we left off as my feylock just rescued the paladin, a long way off in the mist shrouded swamp. We are separated from the main camp and help. Might as well break the news to the paladin first, here. Lol. ![]() |
| #76SavevsDeathSep 19, 2008 18:35:23 | This is incredibly fascinating, not to mention effin hilarious. please keep us updated. |
| #77tenteikariteSep 19, 2008 20:39:06 | oddly enough I was planning something similar with my group. My DMPC Tainted Sorcerer's Female Cleric cohort was gonna get pregnant by him, and since his taint is so high, the baby was going to turn out to be an Unholy Scion, making life extremely interesting for the rest of the party. -T/K |
| #78angelus_obscuraSep 21, 2008 20:18:43 | OKay, back again from the continuation of a great game. Hello, my sweetling! Won't you come in? We started right where we left off last game, separated from our camp and fellow companions. It was just the paladin and I, wandering through the mist-choked Swamp of Sorrows ( for whoever gets it). I gave the badly hurt and unconscious paladin the "breathe of life" (cpr), reviving him and getting him back up. I revealed my pregnancy to the paladin, non-nonchalantly revealing it while he was falling asleep as I kept watch. :D We tried to find our way back to the camp, but the singing of the Shadar-kai threw us off course. Hoping our companions followed the paladin's last instructions to keep heading south (out of the bogs), we gave up the search for the rest of the party and headed south. Living off of mudfish (monkfish/catfish) that I caught and various edible plants pally foraged, we kept walking. We slept in hollowed out fallen trees. Then, we came across a couple of Shadar-kai scouts, camped. We approached as friends, meaning no harm. Asking for water and directions, we were led to their camp. To our regret, the camp's elder (shaman/witch doctor) was in league with the Shadar-kai cultists and we were forced to fight him and his summoned fire archon. Things turned for the worst as the paladin fell. I was forced to flee (I was burning, which left me scarred), as I had the baby to think of. After throwing off my hunters, I waited for nightfall and doubled back, hoping to rescue pally. Unfortunately, I was too late. They turned him. As I touched his insensate form (on the altar), I had a vision where I was actually there for the turning ritual. He saw me, and begged to be killed. SO I tried to coup-de-grace. Unfortunately, I could not deal enough damage = to his bloodied value to instantly kill him. Vision ended. Pally is hurt on the altar. I finish the job with tears flowing down and then flee. I wander, alone and desperate, south. (Meanwhile, player bringsin his new character. He was actually glad his pally died. It wasn;t going anywhere). I stumble unto a clearing where a pristine little house stands on a clean field. An old lady (the stereotypical witch appearance) greets me (with broom in hand) and invites me in to succor. I ask for food, water, and etc. She asks for help to start dinner. There is a black cat on a barrel that watches everything. I fetch her water from a stream, to fill a HUGE cauldron. I meet her "servant", another Oerthian who wandered into her glade, as he fetches wood. He is the new character, a fighter/warlord. Cat follows me to stream. It talks, warning me; telling me to run away. Same deal with the fighter. I rolled a lot of bluff checks to prolong my chores and to hide my conversations with the fighter. It was very fun to roleplay. I also worked in her garden to gather herbs and veggies. All the while, the kitty kept whispering to us to run away. I told it to act like it ran away so I can run after it. It did, but went back to the house. All the while, the swamp kept disappearing, being pushed back somehow. We now knew we were being dragged into the Feywild, slowly. Night approached, cauldron is bubbling. Hag says she needs meats to make her stew perfect, and we ask if she has any in her pantry. She goes back inside. We are standing outside, near the "bubble trouble". I recalled children bedtime stories of mean old witches who lured children with sweets to only eat them. I suggested we lure the granny out and trick her, pushing her into her own cauldron. Or tip the cauldron over to forestall our fate. I took the hag's broom to use as leverage, if we did do that. Hag starts to come back out. I make a run for the edges of the nearby forest, hiding behind a tree. Fighter acts as decoy. The old lady eventually revealed herself to be Baba Yaga, who tried to come at us with an oversized cleaver as big as she. It would be a comical scene if we weren't on her menu. We tried to fight her off, but she proved to be too powerful. Her cat jumped onto a log near the cauldron, threatening to kill itself by jumping into the boiling cauldron. hag goes, "No, noo, my sweets!" And we're in a deadlock. Cat yells at us to run. We run, heading towards where we last saw the swamp. The hag came after us, cat in one arm and her mighty cleaver in the other hand yellin. She eventually stopped and ran back to her house. We thought we were in the clear, until her house stood up and ran after us on chicken legs. LOL! Yup, BABA YAGA is after us! So our flight ended up being a skill challenge of Endurance and Athletics. The fighter eventually had to carry me the rest of the way. Can you imagine a burned witch, flung over a fighter's shoulder while he is running. And I was waving my stolen broom around telling him to go faster. We managed to escape the feywild realm of Baba Yaga and back into the swamp. We starve, we wander, until we are out. We exit the swamp only to end up in the middle of a fight between bandits and dragonborn merchants. We rescued the dragonborn. I used my newly scarred visage to intimidate the bandits to surrender. We end the session there. And now we leveled to 6th! YAY! Oh, one last thing. I rolled a 30 on my Arcana check against the broom. It's a 20th level magic item. I have Baba Yaga's broom. :OMG! |
| #79dirtyfrankSep 21, 2008 21:22:11 | great story. Keep it up. I can't wait until you reveal the pregnancy to the others. |
| #80angelus_obscuraSep 21, 2008 21:34:12 | Sorry, I forgot to add in the fact that I revealed the pregnancy to the paladin after I revived him, bandaged him up, and while he was falling asleep during my watch. :P Above story is edited. |
| #81dirtyfrankSep 21, 2008 21:42:44 | Still the pally finds out then dies the next day. The good thing is that your character has a new friend to reveal this to. |
| #82angelus_obscuraSep 21, 2008 22:02:24 | Still the pally finds out then dies the next day. The good thing is that your character has a new friend to reveal this to. Yup. Also, now that I am scarred, minus the abdominal area, I am going get a mask (full cover), in white porcelain or white gold, with a jagged tear track down the sides of the eyes. 2 lines, symmetrical. like this: ![]() ![]() |
| #83zathressSep 22, 2008 5:08:19 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. Here's something similar. The party is on a extend break from adventuring running the town we've established. My character is the constable, also Chaotic Good. (we were roleplaying a time skip). I'm laying about in my office while a certain NPC rogue Kayle who comes into town, a repeatedly visiting thief, for five years from 12 to 17. My character being a weretiger would track down her scent and other basic tracking skills if she covered her scent. and arrest her throw her in the holding cell for a while before releasing her. Some time after the festival. She never hurt anybody and never stole anything of real value and being just a kid he didn't see a reason for more serious punishment. Now its six months after her last visit a few months from her 18th birthday. She shows up at the paladin (and party leader) door rubbing her very pregnant belly and looking for me. *despite knowing my offices exact location. So the paladin leads her to me, and breaks down my door. My response is of course what the hell. Then I notice the pregnant rogue Kayle and put 2 and 2 together. Now one thing led to another and the party arranged a crossbow wedding. (how they ended up sleeping together to begin with is another story) She was silent during this whole ordeal up to the vows. He was not, he had to major complaints. "I am greatly offended by this, first you all actually think I'd do something as horrible as run out on a woman I knocked up, second and worst of all you actually think you could stop me" When the time skip had actually ended my character was the father of six the oldest was actually dating one of the players new characters (a Bard). My guy was middle age, his stats kept young by weekly magic spells. He had calmed down from a raging chaotic good to a calmer Neutral Good. What was interesting with him he wasn't native to that world. (Krynn). One night he went out drinking, woke up the next night and found the sky was different. His goal of returning home was side tracked by the chaos war, the loss of magic, and then having a wife children. By the time magic returned to the world he had lived in Krynn far longer then he did on his homeworld. |
| #84jaywolfe82Sep 23, 2008 12:20:04 | I warn you that I have not looked through all of the posts, but in 3.5 there was a splatbook, which I own. It is called Book of Erotic Fantasy, and written by Gwendolyn F.M. Kestrel and Duncan Scott. It was an interesting book and actually gave some in game mechanics (3.5 mechanics) for being pregnant. Here's what they were: 1st Trimester - No change 2nd Trimester - Movement reduced by one quarter(round down), -2 penalty to dexterity 3rd Trimester - Movement reduced by half, -4 penalty to Dexterity, -2 Penalty to Strength. You could easily adapt them for 4e with a bit of a tweaking. However, I'm not in favor of these mechanics. It punishes you, but gives you no benefits. Like perhaps a Charisma bonus...(Pregnant women have a "glow" right?) The possibilities really are limitless... |
| #85angelus_obscuraSep 23, 2008 12:55:03 | Yes, the book was mentioned, but thanks for the info. I doubt anything in that book gives you benefits that are truly benign. I mean, its a book on STIs and sadism, right? ![]() |
| #86angelus_obscuraSep 28, 2008 22:19:47 | Okay, new update. The pregnancy is progressing REALLY fast. It's as if 4 months passed in a span of one! WHOA! She can't even ride a horse for fear of going into miscarriage. Okay, last we left off, our scarred and dirt[y] poor heroine escaped The Crone (Baba Yaga), and finally exited the Swamp of Sorrows with new companion. We found ourselves helping some dragonborn supply wagon runners subdue some wand-wielding bandits. Afterwards, we made it to one of the outermost cities of Arkhosia (we are on a mission to find and gather fellow Oerther refugees). There, we traded a magic item (arcanist's glasses I took from a slain shadar-kai) for a wand of radiance +1 and 50 gp, which I used to get clothes, adventuring kit, rations, and finally a mule that cost only 1 gold. Unfortunately, it farts every time something weighs it down. ![]() After inquiring about our other party members (still a split party situation due to player absence), we met two NPCs of some import to accompany us to the capital city to investigate rumors of magic that can get us back home. Then the NPC wizard commented on her pregnancy, slightly offending her. Sisa'kofa was like, "What do you mean, my condition? Are you implying my pregnancy somehow makes me weak and a liability? Because I am with child, I mmust now sit at home and do nothing? Oh hell no! The world waits for no one." On the way, we encountered a band of boulder-hurling ogres and their oni witch as they were trying to burn down the guardpost/bridge on a river. We had a hard time fighting the witch, as it kept pushing us around, teleporting, and becoming insubstantial. It kept trying to kill me; good thing the fighter's stance and skillz brought it low enough for my sustained crown of stars to deliver the final blow. We got decent loot from them, wyrmscale armor of exploits +2 and boots of adept charging (lucky fighter!). :P Too bad they are oversized. We reached the capital without any more problems. We ended our session as we gathered intel, got an inn, etc etc. I'm finally gonna commission the mask I talked about. So far, I've been using a shawl to cover my face. |
| #87trissjSep 29, 2008 16:05:47 | Thanks for keeping us updated! (and for your help in the Feylock thread :D ) |
| #88angelus_obscuraOct 04, 2008 21:57:28 | baby ![]() :D |
| #89dirtyfrankOct 05, 2008 19:24:37 | So when should we expect the next update? |
| #90angelus_obscuraOct 06, 2008 12:34:14 | Okay, so we are now in the capital city of Arkhosia. My character is approaching the end of her 2nd trimester. We were finally reunited with our lost tiefling companion, who arrived a day ahead of us and sold the hippogriff foals (2800 gp each). Since our paladin passed away, it was split between just the two of us. We bought some much needed supplies. I finally got the mask finished, and started to fill her ritual book with some cool stuff. As I mentioned earlier, since we do not have a healer with us anymore, I have taken the role with gusto. While our tiefling wizard focuses on more arcane matters, my blood witch will pursue biomancy (rituals that heal the sick, etc) as well as minor personal utilities like make whole and endure elements. During the week we spent in the city, we also followed up on leads that could take us back home to Oerth. The dragonborn were the ones who rescued Oerthers from an apocalypse (gods are at an all out war after one of the gods of light imbalanced the scales of power). We were renting a room in a tenement (owners are an old couple), resting for the night when a halfling snuck in and took something from our wizard's pouch; a glowing red gem. Once it was out, it started it grow at an exponential rate. The halfling was an old friend of ours who made the mistake of exposing himself to a powerful artifact of Pelor, thereby making the artifact his obsession (our own Gollum). He thought we had the artifact, but it was in fact housed in a village church, hidden. Now, the pouch was a gift from the tiefling mage's foster daddy, an efreet lord. It was only to be opened in an emergency. -_- We were grumpy and angry at the halfling, especially the pregnant feylock. I shot him with an eldrich blast as a warning, he panicked and promptly swallowed the glowing/growing gem. Things got messy from there. The gem continued to grow, halfling realized his mistake as his stomach grew, and wanted it out. I used my newly trained heal skill to perform a ciserian, using his own magical daggers. I told them to take the gem outside, as it was now apparent that a fire elemental was inside the gem. The fighter and I wrapped my blanket around his midsection and the fighter/ems took him to a temple of Erathis. Meanwhile, our wizard got himself a new pet: a tiny fire elemental "familiar" that can merge with him into an aura of flame (thxfully, a tiefling has natural resistance to fire). When my feylock is due, she will make sure the baby comes out the old fashioned way. No cutting! We were kicked out for starting a fire, having an unwelcome bloody guest, and causing a ruckus. Wizard cast rope trick in a public park.The next morning, during my daily routines, the child within tried to override my senses and make me kill my companions. There is alot of hostility in there! Every day, she meditates, listening to her own body and centering her emotions. SHe tried o communicate with the fey child within and she almost lost control of her own mind. So, our game is now on hiatus for about 3 weeks (DM is on vacation). He left it up to me whether we want to stay in town until the child is born or continue adventuring. I think it is best to stay until the third trimester/pregnancy is over. thoughts? Anyways, here is Sisa'kofa's mask. |
| #91dirtyfrankOct 07, 2008 13:50:35 | So, our game is now on hiatus for about 3 weeks (DM is on vacation). He left it up to me whether we want to stay in town until the child is born or continue adventuring. I think it is best to stay until the third trimester/pregnancy is over. thoughts? My thoughts is that you should get a bit more role playing from the pregnancy. I would suggest roll play a part of a day out that happens to be a few days before the birth. The baby is likely at its best chance to take over and control mother. You again do some role play during a few days after the child's birth. You could then skip forward a few weeks and then continue dungeon delving as normal, or at least as normal as you can while carrying a child around. |
| #92fodiggOct 08, 2008 14:04:08 | Interesting concept. I could see a deity picking a high-level adventurer to bear their "child" (probably an aspect of themselves) in order to ensure the child was protected. The party would essentially be the "midwives of [godling name here]" or something and have to ferry the little bundle of mcguffin from safe house to safe house until it comes to term. I don't know if I'd saddle a PC with it (at least not without their consent), but I might introduce a NPC mother for them to protect. |
| #93SavevsDeathOct 12, 2008 3:46:47 | Interesting concept. I could see a deity picking a high-level adventurer to bear their "child" (probably an aspect of themselves) in order to ensure the child was protected. Many lulz on this one :D keep 'em comin angelus |
| #94churcherOct 20, 2008 16:23:02 | Hey, great job! I can't wait to see the new update for this. Sounds like you've got a full plate to munch on! Good luck with it, and please, keep us updated! |
| #95Hibiki54Oct 20, 2008 19:30:38 | So you're going to roll up a new character while you are Pregger's, right? You just retired your character. |
| #96minja_dupOct 20, 2008 20:04:42 | So you're going to roll up a new character while you are Pregger's, right? Why do that? Why can't you play a pregnant hero? |
| #97Hibiki54Oct 20, 2008 21:23:52 | So this person expects to go adventuring while carrying child and expects to do so after the child is born and raise the brat at the same time. Nice once. Make a new character. Simple as that. |
| #98WinterleafOct 20, 2008 22:05:13 | Xena did it. Granted, she never got to raise the kid. But bore it, delivered it, hauled it around for a few episodes, and kicked the arses of most of the Olympian Gods in the process. It's a fantasy game. That means that some things that we 'modern' people might consider to be the end of a life of carefree adventuring can turn out to be a plot hook of epic proportions in the hands of the right DM in the right game. Look at the Order of the Stick. Even being dead does not mean the end of a character. Child-bearing? Just the start of Ragnarok. . . ![]() |
| #99Gerrard-s_MomOct 20, 2008 22:13:29 | I've had a similar situation before, my 1/4 elf 3/4 human bard had a child with one of the DM's past PCs, a philandering half-elf, so I had a 3/8 elf child![]() The father's father was the DM's first character, who has been in existence longer than I have. He was like a level 108 elf exarch of chaos or something. Anyway, despite his chaoticness, he was very protective of family, so I got a ring that would take me to his palace, so I was the only person that survived when we got ambushed by a higher level evil party upon leaving the medusa's lair, and everyone else that hadn't been petrified was disintegrated. It was a pretty awesome storyline ![]() Anyway, with the actual pregnancy, I think it almost all played out while we were stuck inside a besieged city, for some reason. Then my daughter hung out in the magical palace with a bunch of other runts of various fractions of elf. When my half-orc (female) bodyguard got banished to inside a jewel in Asmodeus' crown or something ridiculous, the mother gave up and went to take care of kids in the palace too. |
| #100minja_dupOct 21, 2008 18:19:51 | So this person expects to go adventuring while carrying child and expects to do so after the child is born and raise the brat at the same time. As detailed earlier in this post, I have played a character that did this successfully, and it was a lot of fun and added a lot to the game. The DM had unlimited plot hooks based on the issue. ;) Nice once. Make a new character. Simple as that. No it is not 'simple as that.' You insinuate that pregnancy, birth and raising a child is an inappropriate direction to take a heroic character. I think this is a short sighted view. The history of fiction includes countless stories where the presence of children young and old is used to advance the story arc. ![]() As Winterleaf states, Xena did it. Also, this exact issue of retiring from action to give birth and raise a child was critical to the backstory and plot of Kill Bill Vol. I & II. All six of the Lone Wolf and Cub series dealt with the topic of raising a young child while still living the life of an action hero, as well as Road to Perdition. Child rearing issues were also central in the plots of The Professional and The Long Kiss Goodnight. I can see why some players wouldn't want to give this kind of game a try. But that doesn't mean that it is inappropriate, wrong, or can't be done well. In fact I think from the updates it seems to me like it is being done pretty well. ![]() |
| #101baneofelvesOct 21, 2008 18:25:20 | So this person expects to go adventuring while carrying child and expects to do so after the child is born and raise the brat at the same time. Why not? That's a pretty closed minded view. It can add so much to the game. |
| #102Hibiki54Oct 22, 2008 0:29:49 | I'm just saying because we had a player try to do that once. It eventually became a hinderance because our entire party was Unaligned and had no relation to each other besides being hired as mercenaries. Being a fighter put a creux in her pregnancy role play after the BBEG made her lose her "child" and she failed multiple skill checks (charisma was her dump stat) that would have allowed her to recover and take a revenge quest against the BBEG. In the end she had to make a new character because the party wasn't going to wait for her. |
| #103angelus_obscuraOct 22, 2008 1:04:59 | Luckily, our party had a paladin, and now a lawman/fighter with a good sensible heart. Anyways, as I said in my last update, we are at a point where my character cannot adventure without serious risk. This is the end of her second trimester, which means the following week or two will see her give birth. During which time I will be staying in the city doing research and fill up my ritual book. And I don't think the child will be mine to raise. There has been hints that my patron will come to collect its baby. And not only did Xena do it, Cable did it too in the recent Marvel comicverse. He was chased through time by a baby-killing Bishop with the x-baby strapped to his chest. LOL, here check out the pic, its ridiculously cute. lulz, how badass does that look? ![]() |
| #104fodiggOct 22, 2008 9:30:49 | I think it's very possible, but make sure the rest of the party is cool with it. |
| #105rowlOct 24, 2008 2:29:12 | I'm just saying because we had a player try to do that once. It eventually became a hinderance because our entire party was Unaligned and had no relation to each other besides being hired as mercenaries. Being a fighter put a creux in her pregnancy role play after the BBEG made her lose her "child" and she failed multiple skill checks (charisma was her dump stat) that would have allowed her to recover and take a revenge quest against the BBEG. Dude, quit being a troll and actually read the storylines that have progressed from this within the thread. It's pretty obvious, if you'd bother for a second to consider what you just posted, that your party makeup and campaign design was heavily flawed to carry out the pregnancy concept, and potentially that your DM was too mechanics oriented to make such a concept functionally valid. It's just as obvious that Angelus' game is also far different. |
| #106mrparadigmOct 27, 2008 19:40:20 | If at all possible, you could try to find a copy of Valar Press' infamous Book of Erotic Fantasy. It had rules for getting pregnant, preventing pregnancy, and being pregnant (with all the ability penalties broken down by trimester) I believe its rare as baator now, but worth having. Not just for the pictures. ) |
| #107bedeverekmOct 28, 2008 2:42:12 | Agreed. The book got a lot of bad press (From people who hadn't read it, as far as I can tell) but it adds a lot to your game, if it involves that sort of thing. I play in several campaigns. One of them meant the book was suitable, so I tracked down a copy. The game has certainly been improved as a result. We do not feel compelled to do everything the book contains in our game, but like any rules supplement, we choose what we wish to add from it. |
| #108angelus_obscuraOct 28, 2008 15:07:06 | I do have the book, in pdf form. I'll bring it up in our next game, but I doubt it will be used. The DM already made the rules for the pregnancy (and most of the penalties have been glossed over in the time we adventured). Thanks for the suggestion though. |
| #109mrparadigmOct 28, 2008 15:55:45 | I do have the book, in pdf form. I'll bring it up in our next game, but I doubt it will be used. The DM already made the rules for the pregnancy (and most of the penalties have been glossed over in the time we adventured). Thanks for the suggestion though. No prob...you'll always have it for next time. ![]() |
| #110angelus_obscuraNov 01, 2008 21:44:08 | Hey guys. I'm in a pickle, as I have to get myself armor. I've been without any since a gelatinous cube ate my leathers awhile back. Taking my budget of 1679 gp into account, I've narrowed my choices to these: armor of cleansing armor of resistance (fire) armor of repulsion veteran's armor Any suggestions? They will all be enchanted upon leathers. |
| #111dirtyfrankNov 02, 2008 15:09:31 | Out of the armors that you listed I think that veteran's armor is the best. I would suggest obtaining about 150 gp more, either through borrowing or working, and get the +2 summoned armor. This will allow for your character to wear what ever cloths she wishes and to be as stylish as she wishes, and when she needs protection she can just call her armor to her. |
| #112antartisNov 09, 2008 5:38:03 | Man, this whole pregnancy business is awesome. It heavily tempts me to do something like that to my players (or half-N PC) for additional plot hooks and what not. Reminds me of a friend's campaign in 3e... I think it was utilising the Book of Erotic Fantasy or something. The cleric impregnated the paladin's wife PC with a spell that made her carry a hellspawn... as a revenge for never letting him sleep. That's what happens with evil characters in parties. :embarrass Unlike Elminster, I have never been a woman. Off-topic: This is going to my sig. Pure win. |
| #113leowulfNov 09, 2008 18:26:30 | As detailed earlier in this post, I have played a character that did this successfully, and it was a lot of fun and added a lot to the game. The DM had unlimited plot hooks based on the issue. ;) http://www.amazon.com/Frostflower-Thorn-Phyllis-Ann-Karr/dp/1587150131 This is one of the best sword-n-sorcery reads out there, and the baby was integral to the plot. Rather than the end of a character's career, pregnancy and childbirth can easily be the beginning of an adventure - both in RL and in a game. ![]() |
| #114angelus_obscuraNov 11, 2008 1:36:03 | I hate to be the bearer of ill tidings, but here goes ... Our current campaign ended with my feylock still pregnant. The game two weeks ago was our DM's last (he told us from the start that he will be DMing for only 8-10 sessions), and a fellow player pulled out his GM hat. The game ended with the group discovering they were in a time loop. Our past sessions were merely the successes of our current selves, erasing our past selves' mistakes. This was hinted at throughout the whole arc, with the visions being a key proponent. We were told that to escape this trap, we must go to the very beginning and undo what was never meant to happen, the manifestation of a god on Greyhawk, which broke the the agreement among the deities to stay outside and just influence via proxies and servants. Anywho, we stepped through the portal raised by a friendly wizard NPC/plot device and ended the game. We had the option to remain with our current characters, BUT we will be starting over at 1st level (new DM wanted to experience the rules from the ground up rather than pick up from level 8 himself). While this would make my feylock de-pregnated (:embarrass ), I was reluctant to go through the same leveling twice. So, for our new game I made a diff character. Our new DM (former fellow player, the one who was the pally/fighter) is such a great DM. SO far, its great. And I do miss my feylock. Alas, my drow bladesinger from Xen'drik (Eberron) has stolen my heart. And the new campaign is just awesome, with the whole "strangers, each from different worlds, trapped in the mist shrouded lands of Ravenloft". We went through prologues for each campaisgn setting that one of our characters were from. The DM put alot of work into it and we are having a blast. Please, do not cry for Sisa'kofa or her unborn child. She will be missed. And thanks to everyone for your counsel and advice. It was really fun while it lasted. ![]() ![]() |
| #115dirtyfrankNov 11, 2008 1:44:26 | Question, is your new drow character female by any chance? If so you could go through the whole pregnancy thing again. ;) |
| #116psychicrogueNov 11, 2008 5:04:23 | Title says it all. My character, a half-elf feylock got pregnant, immaculately. The unborn child is my patroness's and her spurned lover's baby, which my feylock will have to carry to term. i once adopted a baby from a village i set alight. just treat the baby as you would in real life. Its not that hard. |
| #117angelus_obscuraNov 11, 2008 15:29:25 | Question, is your new drow character female by any chance? No way, no how, nuh uh! :D If so you could go through the whole pregnancy thing again. ;) As above. ![]() |
| #118WinterleafNov 14, 2008 18:41:23 | http://www.amazon.com/Frostflower-Thorn-Phyllis-Ann-Karr/dp/1587150131 OMG. I read that book eons ago. . . and it was awesome. One of the reasons I found female characters in fantasy fiction so interesting. . . because they're so interesting. |