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Quick Question about 3.5 Prestige Classes

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#1
blinkkite
Jul 23, 2009 9:08:02 Hello All,
I was wondering, I've always thought that prestige classes don't count for Multiclassing Penalties, but I can't find anywhere that says they dont.

Can anybody clarify this with a source?
#2
Zherog
Jul 23, 2009 9:13:02 It was accidentally cut from the 3.5 DMG. To get that piece of data, you need to go to the FAQ.

In the previous version of the D&D game, having levels in a prestige class never caused you to pay the experience penalty for being a multiclass character without uneven class levels. (The prestige class levels didn’t count when checking to see if you had a penalty.) The section on prestige classes in the new DMG no longer mentions that you don’t suffer an experience penalty for having levels in a prestige class. Is this a change or an error?

It’s an error. Having levels in a prestige class won’t give you an experience penalty.

Similar text might be in the Rules Compendium, but I don't have that source so I don't know.
#3
turbowombat
Jul 23, 2009 14:15:07 3.x forums this way ------------------------------------------->
#4
Alter_Boy
Jul 23, 2009 14:42:11
It was accidentally cut from the 3.5 DMG. To get that piece of data, you need to go to the FAQ.

Similar text might be in the Rules Compendium, but I don't have that source so I don't know.

WOW. All these years I wondered what was the point of builds with 3 different PrCs in them what with the XP penalty.
#5
Zherog
Jul 23, 2009 15:46:51
3.x forums this way ------------------------------------------->

This specific forum (as well as [i]What's a DM to Do?[/b]) is edition neutral. While the question might have been better asked down in the Previous Editions forum, it's also valid here.
#6
Zherog
Jul 23, 2009 15:47:40
WOW. All these years I wondered what was the point of builds with 3 different PrCs in them what with the XP penalty.

Yeah, I think it's a pretty huge omission, and I'm surprised they only ever addressed it in the FAQ, rather than the actual errata.
#7
jutter
Jul 24, 2009 2:06:37 I believe it is mentioned in the Prestige Class chapter in the DMG. I had the same question when we started out with 3rd edition, and it was mentioned somewhere in my v3.5 DMG. Unfortunately, I don't have my books at hand, but this is the SRD's take on it:

Prestige classes offer a new form of multiclassing. Unlike the basic classes, characters must meet Requirements before they can take their first level of a prestige class. The rules for level advancement apply to this system, meaning the first step of advancement is always choosing a class. If a character does not meet the Requirements for a prestige class before that first step, that character cannot take the first level of that prestige class. Taking a prestige class does not incur the experience point penalties normally associated with multiclassing.

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#8
Zherog
Jul 24, 2009 11:06:45 It might be in reprinted versions of the DMG; but it's not in the original 3.5 version. It was definitely in the 3.0 DMG, but when they did the conversion, they cut the whole paragraph, rather than part of it, by mistake.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 blinkkite Jul 23, 2009 9:08:02	Hello All, I was wondering, I've always thought that prestige classes don't count for Multiclassing Penalties, but I can't find anywhere that says they dont. Can anybody clarify this with a source?
#2 Zherog Jul 23, 2009 9:13:02	It was accidentally cut from the 3.5 DMG. To get that piece of data, you need to go to the FAQ. In the previous version of the D&D game, having levels in a prestige class never caused you to pay the experience penalty for being a multiclass character without uneven class levels. (The prestige class levels didn’t count when checking to see if you had a penalty.) The section on prestige classes in the new DMG no longer mentions that you don’t suffer an experience penalty for having levels in a prestige class. Is this a change or an error? It’s an error. Having levels in a prestige class won’t give you an experience penalty. Similar text might be in the Rules Compendium, but I don't have that source so I don't know.
#3 turbowombat Jul 23, 2009 14:15:07	3.x forums this way ------------------------------------------->
#4 Alter_Boy Jul 23, 2009 14:42:11	It was accidentally cut from the 3.5 DMG. To get that piece of data, you need to go to the FAQ. Similar text might be in the Rules Compendium, but I don't have that source so I don't know. WOW. All these years I wondered what was the point of builds with 3 different PrCs in them what with the XP penalty.
#5 Zherog Jul 23, 2009 15:46:51	3.x forums this way -------------------------------------------> This specific forum (as well as [i]What's a DM to Do?[/b]) is edition neutral. While the question might have been better asked down in the Previous Editions forum, it's also valid here.
#6 Zherog Jul 23, 2009 15:47:40	WOW. All these years I wondered what was the point of builds with 3 different PrCs in them what with the XP penalty. Yeah, I think it's a pretty huge omission, and I'm surprised they only ever addressed it in the FAQ, rather than the actual errata.
#7 jutter Jul 24, 2009 2:06:37	I believe it is mentioned in the Prestige Class chapter in the DMG. I had the same question when we started out with 3rd edition, and it was mentioned somewhere in my v3.5 DMG. Unfortunately, I don't have my books at hand, but this is the SRD's take on it: Prestige classes offer a new form of multiclassing. Unlike the basic classes, characters must meet Requirements before they can take their first level of a prestige class. The rules for level advancement apply to this system, meaning the first step of advancement is always choosing a class. If a character does not meet the Requirements for a prestige class before that first step, that character cannot take the first level of that prestige class. Taking a prestige class does not incur the experience point penalties normally associated with multiclassing. Link
#8 Zherog Jul 24, 2009 11:06:45	It might be in reprinted versions of the DMG; but it's not in the original 3.5 version. It was definitely in the 3.0 DMG, but when they did the conversion, they cut the whole paragraph, rather than part of it, by mistake.