Me, a dark-minded Psoin/Warlock.
and
Rolann, my polar oppisite, a cheery, young rogue.
Lately we met a beautiful young elf. then the elf (Lucy) fell in love with Rolann and it seems that lately the game is centered around pleasing her. I got so bored i started to "hack" the elfs mind, but still the game is really boring.
Even Rolann sometimes admits that its slow and sometimes boring. Playing the dark-minded character i am, started thinking about killing her or something similer to keep the game going.
What should i do?
What are your views on romance in DnD?
But that said I'll take a bite at both questions. I think it's a bit meanspirited to attack the one thing in what sounds like a pretty slow campaign that someone is enjoying. That's a little lame. Likely folks are going to resent that and you'll end up still not having fun and having to deal with the scorn of other players.
I'd personally suggest going a different direction with it. What are your character's personal goals and agendas? If things are slow, chances are your DM will be open to letting you pursue things you care about. Make a list of things you'd like to see happen if you had your way and start working toward them. If you're the troublemaking sort you can find prominant folks around town that bother you and cause them mischief, maybe even topple the local lord for someone more sympathetic. Maybe you can put some time into making your dark lords happy, being a warlock and all. Happy dark lords reward their underlings, or at least harrow them less. You might even put some time into getting yourself connections to hook yourself up with fun magical goodies and rituals to improve your power base once the slow bit tapers off. In short, if the game seems to have lost momentum then it seems like you've got a good chance of steering it in a direction that favors you. In any case it's better than screwing up the one thing that anyone in your group is accomplishing.
As for romance in roleplaying games, it took me a while. For one thing it's awkward to roleplay sometimes, looking into the goofy mug of some nerdy friend of yours and trying to play like he's this gorgeous lady. Ugh. That and it's seldom that players or DMs really understand relationships and the opposite sex. At best this can result in cheesy soap opera. At worst sexually derogatory stereotypes and ugliness. That said, roleplaying is a wonderful way to vicariously explore and appreciate the world, and a genuine storytelling art. At least it can be. Romance and relationships are such a core of what people are that when it's done well it can really add an awesome layer to a story. Personally, in our group, the relationship angle has really added some neat things to quite a few of our games and I've really come to enjoy it.
Well first of all we had a problem in a current DnD. Characters are
Me, and dark-minded (but still neutral) Psoin/Warlock.
and
Rolann, my polar oppisite, a cheery, young rogue.
Lately we met a beautiful young elf. then the elf (Lucy) fell in love with Rolann and it seems that lately the game is centered around pleasing her. I got so bored i started to "hack" the elfs mind, but still the game is really boring. Playing the dark-minded character i am, started thinking about killing her or something similer to keep the game going.
What should i do?
What are your views on romance in DnD?
Romance or just plain sex happens often in our games though we have 1 female gamer in our groups sometimes more depending on the game.
I know that the main lady gamer in our group uses gaming to have fun flirting and acting like her pre married self.
just depends on the group.
our group has mainly been together for 8+ years so we are a close inamate bunch.
a newer group may want to aviod it.
I think it's a bit meanspirited to attack the one thing in what sounds like a pretty slow campaign that someone is enjoying.
That's fair.
our group has mainly been together for 8+ years so we are a close inamate bunch.
a newer group may want to aviod it.
We've been together for 3yrs. Do you consider that new? or old? (like yours)
Is the elf (Lucy) another player character?
If (Lucy) is another player I would not advise killer her.
Also it sounds like your psion and the cheery rogue may not be an easy relationship. Perhaps if you want romance you should roleplay it some in a dark and brood sort of way? Chances are very likely Rolann cannot read minds as well as your psion ;)
Or in the case where your dark brooder is not actually interested int heir polar opposite and your just unfod of all things soft and rosey (like love), then perhaps you could roleplay that up some and have your character be fowl towards them.
love,
malkav
We also had groups where everyone had two characters and sometimes the same player would end up sweet talking himself.
We also had a group with comprised of 3 couples. The women would sometimes flirt with NPCs causing a tavern brawl, or a man would try to bed a tavern wench and end up picking a dagger out of his buttocks.
But very little serious romance, it was more comic than romantic. And the screen faded to black before anyone lost their dignity.
We had the more "James Bond" or "Captain Kirk" type players.
Well, that sums up everything don't it?
My advice? Go with what your first impression tells you. Why is the game moving slowly? If the DM has no ideas for adventurs, perhaps suggest Lucy's old lover comes back to get her... Along with an army of (insert baddie here)
My advice? Go with what your first impression tells you. Why is the game moving slowly? If the DM has no ideas for adventurs, perhaps suggest Lucy's old lover comes back to get her... Along with an army of (insert baddie here)
Thats a good idea. but i'm not the DM.
i can't just go up to him and say "this is the adverture scenario. Get DM-ing it!" :rolleye2:
Thats a good idea. but i'm not the DM.
i can't just go up to him and say "this is the adverture scenario. Get DM-ing it!" :rolleye2:
Sure you can. Just be, you know, diplomatic.
"Bill? I'm getting restless with how slow the game seems to be going. I'd like some more action. Here's some ideas i had. What do you think?"
Sure you can. Just be, you know, diplomatic.
"Bill? I'm getting restless with how slow the game seems to be going. I'd like some more action. Here's some ideas i had. What do you think?"
yeah. okay.
If one of the other PCs has a relationship with an NPC, you are not within your rights to kill or interfere with that romance. Trust me, most DMs see romances as the unavoidable first step toward either 1) Avenge the Killing of a Loved One or 2) Betrayal by a Loved One. So all you'd really be doing is making yourself the villain of Plot 1, instead of getting to join in the fun when the DM springs Plot 1 or 2 on your fellow-player.
However, you are within your rights to insist on equal time - and if your character's time ends up being more interesting, then the current side-plot of the romance will stop taking up much time in the campaign. Your best bets are:
1) Tell the DM your character is researching old books and maps for signs of any artifact that will augment your psionics. He might not have anything ready on the spot, but no self-respecting DM will pass up on a player "just plain asking for it."
2) Take on an apprentice. Yes, I know the psion as written doesn't really require a master/apprentice relationship (thanks to the rather sad 'you gain a level and magically gain all your new skill ranks'), but such an NPC gives you somebody to roleplay at, just as your rogue buddy has his romantic interest. (Notice I recommend a professional relationship, not a romance: that way the two subplots are opposites, changes of pace, rather than more of the same.)
2) Take on an apprentice. Yes, I know the psion as written doesn't really require a master/apprentice relationship (thanks to the rather sad 'you gain a level and magically gain all your new skill ranks'), but such an NPC gives you somebody to roleplay at, just as your rogue buddy has his romantic interest. (Notice I recommend a professional relationship, not a romance: that way the two subplots are opposites, changes of pace, rather than more of the same.)
Ooooo, that's a good one. Makes me wich for the days of Feat training @ 50gp a week...