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Rules for some feats, can anybody help me out?

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#1
concretedog
Oct 03, 2011 7:01:26 So, I'm playing an archery based rogue at the moment, and I've just hit level 6 so as a feat I've taken manyshot. My character also has rapid shot. Can I combine the two feats, and end up firing 4 arrows a round? And does each individual arrow do sneak attack damage?
Edit: This is 3.5e
#2
LordOfWeasels
Oct 03, 2011 8:51:11
So, I'm playing an archery based rogue at the moment, and I've just hit level 6 so as a feat I've taken manyshot. My character also has rapid shot. Can I combine the two feats, and end up firing 4 arrows a round? And does each individual arrow do sneak attack damage?
Edit: This is 3.5e

I don't know the answer.

You're more likely to get a faster response from a more knowledgable set of people if you ask D20 rules questions in the D20 Rules Question Forums - "What's A Player To Do?" is edition-agnostsic, but is more about inter-group dynamics and OOG concerns, not rules.
#3
concretedog
Oct 03, 2011 11:17:20 Ah fair enough. Sorry about that, I'm new to the forum. I'll take this to the right place.
#4
oxybe
Oct 03, 2011 12:04:08 i thought it's pretty clear:

Manyshot:As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special).
For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four).

Rapidshot:You can get one extra attack per round with a ranged weapon. The attack is at your highest base attack bonus, but each attack you make in that round (the extra one and the normal ones) takes a -2 penalty. You must use the full attack action to use this feat.

both require 2 different types of actions to use so you can't stack them

#5
salla
Oct 03, 2011 13:03:58 Oxybe is correct.

If you Manyshot, only one arrow deals sneak attack damage. The feat expressly states you only get to apply precision-based amage (which Sneak Attack is) once. You can Sneak Attack as many times as applicable with Rapid Shot, however.

There is a feat, Greater Manyshot, which not only lets you fire your Manyshots at different targets, lets you critically hit and Sneak Attack with all of them.

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#1 concretedog Oct 03, 2011 7:01:26	So, I'm playing an archery based rogue at the moment, and I've just hit level 6 so as a feat I've taken manyshot. My character also has rapid shot. Can I combine the two feats, and end up firing 4 arrows a round? And does each individual arrow do sneak attack damage? Edit: This is 3.5e
#2 LordOfWeasels Oct 03, 2011 8:51:11	So, I'm playing an archery based rogue at the moment, and I've just hit level 6 so as a feat I've taken manyshot. My character also has rapid shot. Can I combine the two feats, and end up firing 4 arrows a round? And does each individual arrow do sneak attack damage? Edit: This is 3.5e I don't know the answer. You're more likely to get a faster response from a more knowledgable set of people if you ask D20 rules questions in the D20 Rules Question Forums - "What's A Player To Do?" is edition-agnostsic, but is more about inter-group dynamics and OOG concerns, not rules.
#3 concretedog Oct 03, 2011 11:17:20	Ah fair enough. Sorry about that, I'm new to the forum. I'll take this to the right place.
#4 oxybe Oct 03, 2011 12:04:08	i thought it's pretty clear: Manyshot:As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special). For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four). Rapidshot:You can get one extra attack per round with a ranged weapon. The attack is at your highest base attack bonus, but each attack you make in that round (the extra one and the normal ones) takes a -2 penalty. You must use the full attack action to use this feat. both require 2 different types of actions to use so you can't stack them
#5 salla Oct 03, 2011 13:03:58	Oxybe is correct. If you Manyshot, only one arrow deals sneak attack damage. The feat expressly states you only get to apply precision-based amage (which Sneak Attack is) once. You can Sneak Attack as many times as applicable with Rapid Shot, however. There is a feat, Greater Manyshot, which not only lets you fire your Manyshots at different targets, lets you critically hit and Sneak Attack with all of them.