So, he is saying that my character can only fire once per round at a single enemy. He says that if he could fire more than one per round, since he would use the skirmish ability on every shot, the scout would become a bit unbalanced. I doubt Wizards of the Coast would make a character only able to fire once per round (we are using d20 Modern rules too and my scout is carrying a semiautomatic weapon) while skirmishing.
So, is there a rule to reconcile these two rules? If anyone know what the Wizards of the Coast would rule, please let me know.
Thanks,
James
Anyway, from what little I remember of 3rd, skirmish is precision damage, which means it will apply to every shot that isn't made as part of a 'volley' (see: scorching ray). A scout with Improved Manyshot will skirmish with every arrow.
Use it with much manic glee. If I remember correctly there is a magic item or two that grant it a number of times a day or permanently.
Make him cry.
You're houseruling in automatic weapons and d20 Modern, so your DM is going to have to houserule how skirmish interacts with them.
Anyway, from what little I remember of 3rd, skirmish is precision damage, which means it will apply to every shot that isn't made as part of a 'volley' (see: scorching ray). A scout with Improved Manyshot will skirmish with every arrow.
Salla has it dead on, except the feat is called "Greater Manyshot"; it's in the Expanded Psionics Handbook (as well as SRD).
If you make only one attack roll, then you are only making one attack. In this case the extra damage would apply only to that one attack..
If you are making more than one attack roll, then you are making multiple attacks. The extra damage from skirmish would apply to each.
I understand what you guys are saying, but what really confuses me is the language of Skirmishing. It says, "on all attacks." It never says one has Manyshot or Greater Manyshot. If it did, I could see how it works. But the description is saying that you are moving and attacking more than once.
It all comes down to the amount of actions you have in a round. In 3.5 this is simply: Standard + Move.
For Skirmish to trigger you need to move at least 10 ft (2 squares). This requires a move action. All you have left now is a standard action. With which you can (normally) only attack once.
Skirmish is written in a such a way that when you are able to get multiple attacks in a round, you might be able to apply your skirmish damage to all of them, however, as pointed out before, skirmish is precision damage which normally applies only to the 1st shot.
Indeed, Greater Manyshot (expanded psioncs handbook) is the way to get it all. In my epic campaign the Ranger/Scout has it which means he can [move] 10+ft. and then [standard] Greater Manyshot multiple arrows.
The reason this works is because of how GM is written, simply stating that you can apply precision damage to every attack instead of just the 1st.
And indeed, it applies to AoOs as well (assuming you have a melee scout, because it's a lot harder to make AoOs with a ranged weapon.).
K-man
Question: Would you get the Skirmish bonus on a Charge?
You did move at least 10ft to perform the charge.
Also related to the topic, the 'all attacks' is also in the case of spring attack/bounding assault/rapid blitz, which let you attack up to three times during your move.
You did move at least 10ft to perform the charge.
Also related to the topic, the 'all attacks' is also in the case of spring attack/bounding assault/rapid blitz, which let you attack up to three times during your move.
Don't forget haste.
Don't forget haste.
Haste added +30ft enhancement bonus to your speed, not an extra move action. The extra attack it granted could also only be used when taking the full attack, or so I believed.
The Sparing Dummy of the Master from the Arms and Equipment Guide allows you to do this, if you train with it enough.
One of the books also has a rule for making a 10 foot step with a high DC tumble check.
Both of these would allow for a full attack with skirmish damage.
In the Oriental Adventures 3e splatbook, it says you could make a DC 40 Tumble check to move 10 feet as a 5-foot step. A level 10 character with a good Dex could hit that DC alright with synergy from Jump, Skill Focus (Tumble) & Acrobatic, cat's grace (or some other +4 enhancement to Dex), and a masterwork tool for Tumble.
And indeed, it applies to AoOs as well (assuming you have a melee scout, because it's a lot harder to make AoOs with a ranged weapon.).
Under normal circumstances, this isn't even possible. You need additional enhancements like the Arrow Mind spell or Prestige Class features.
Haste added +30ft enhancement bonus to your speed, not an extra move action. The extra attack it granted could also only be used when taking the full attack, or so I believed.
You are correct.
. . . and a masterwork tool for Tumble.
Masterwork tools apply only to Craft, Profession, and Disable Device checks. You'd need a +x skill item for that.
Masterwork tools apply only to Craft, Profession, and Disable Device checks. You'd need a +x skill item for that.
That's a reasonable house rule, but the actual rules leave it wide open to apply to any item/skill:
Tool, Masterwork: This well-made item is the perfect tool for the job. It grants a +2 circumstance bonus on a related skill check (if any). Bonuses provided by multiple masterwork items used toward the same skill check do not stack.
For a reasonable example, a masterwork quill could certainly grant a bonus to Forgery.
Haste added +30ft enhancement bonus to your speed, not an extra move action. The extra attack it granted could also only be used when taking the full attack, or so I believed.
Oh, either they changed it or I was thinking of something else.
Since you are only allowed a move and attack action OR a 5' free and full attack action, the feat allows you to move 10 feet as a free action (and thus trigger the movement for skirmish) and get the extra damage on all attacks made.
Oh, either they changed it or I was thinking of something else.
Haste changed in the 3.0 to 3.5 conversion. In 3.0, you're correct - it grants an extra standard action. It was changed in 3.5 to grant an additional attack when you make a full attack.
As I recall, the change was made to prevent spellcasters from firing off three spells a round (Quickened, regular standard action, haste standard action).
Here's what the Scout in the game I run normal does (once a high enough level) there is a feat called 'Double Step' (not WotC, but pretty balanced) which allows you to take a 10' free instead of a 5' free.
Source?
