I've spoken to my DM about this and his response is well they've heard of you and know what you can do. So my rebuttle becomes, well this type of monster has exsisted for milenia do I know what it can do without a role? It then becomes a stand off... What's a player to do?
1. Your GM is impairing the monsters. They would very likely be better served attacking you and eating the reaction than avoiding you. You have free run of the battlefield, and nobody is going to touch you. Really ... your GM just made you darn near indestructible. Prance around saying 'Heeeey batter-batter HEEEEEEEY batter-batter SWING' and execute your battle plan without interference.
2. Just retrain the power next level.
He did, then, let me have it right in the chops, and I certainly deserved it.
However, this is precisely what those kinds of powers are for. Similar to Defender abilities to punish movement away or attacking allies, these are abilities (usually on Strikers or Controllers) that punish monsters for attacking your PC. The DM needs to weigh up the pros and cons of making attacks on the character, not just blanket avoid damage to the monsters (hey they are going to die anyway!)
The DM has two basic choices that work with these abilities:
1) He could play monsters as individuals that have to weigh up effort it takes them to attack versus the impact of getting a hit (including RP effects such as being called out a coward in Salla's example). Ignore the word "damage" here, when you have 100s of hit points, getting past a defense like this is usually just a trade-off, the effort it takes to push through magical defenses or past your character's guard.
2) He could play a tactical board game with the monster team with some pieces sacrificing themselves to your abilities so that the monster team as a whole gains the best out of the situation.
I expect most DMs use both approaches. I play more (2) than (1), it has the added effect that the abilties get showcased when bad guys are taken down by them.
Two ways of looking at it ...
1. Your GM is impairing the monsters. They would very likely be better served attacking you and eating the reaction than avoiding you. You have free run of the battlefield, and nobody is going to touch you. Really ... your GM just made you darn near indestructible. Prance around saying 'Heeeey batter-batter HEEEEEEEY batter-batter SWING' and execute your battle plan without interference.
2. Just retrain the power next level.
QFT
And I love #1!
K-man
I hope this helps.
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
I picture christopher walken's voice.
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
I picture christopher walken's voice.
Definitely Christopher Walken.
At that point, as was sort of already said, it comes down to how intelligent the monster is. If it's smart enough to know that you're poised for a counterattack, it's smart enough to weigh the cost of attacking you versus another player (like the tank, who will likely punish the monster for ignoring him and attacking you, anyways). If the monster is animalistic, technically it shouldn't be ignoring you when you've just smacked it, since it's not smart enough to read you (unless your hit sends it scurrying away with its proverbial tail between its legs).
When I DM I'd allow the monsters to weigh the pro's and con's of attacking someone with a power like that. Typically those powers can only be set off once a round if they are lasting more than one round. If that were the case the stronger leader monsters would just send in the fodder to take the hit first.
I'd also find monsters, especially minions, that have some type of attack when they die. It just sounds like your DM is gimping himself by not attacking.
I'd do as it was said before and just take full advantage of not being attacked.
Which powers are the ones you are using? I don't have access to the barbarian info at the moment and was wondering which they were.
When I DM I'd allow the monsters to weigh the pro's and con's of attacking someone with a power like that. Typically those powers can only be set off once a round if they are lasting more than one round. If that were the case the stronger leader monsters would just send in the fodder to take the hit first.
I'd also find monsters, especially minions, that have some type of attack when they die. It just sounds like your DM is gimping himself by not attacking.
I'd do as it was said before and just take full advantage of not being attacked.
It's likely Curtain of Steel. Which, yes, is an amazing deterrant to not get hit. 3[W] encounter power, as an interrupt. Frost Wolf Rage would be the autodamage, at 3+CON mod cold damage. In which, he just needs to man up and drop some creatures with Cold Resist.
EDIT: Open your book first before posting, derp. It's a Reaction, not an interrupt, I fail.
DOUBLEEDIT: Ate my section on FWR.... bleh.
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
*Gnoll archer misses a shot*
"You'll never hit me, you'll never hit my tiny head! Like that, chucklenuts? You. Are. TERRIBLE!"
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
*Gnoll archer misses a shot*
"You'll never hit me, you'll never hit my tiny head! Like that, chucklenuts? You. Are. TERRIBLE!"
"Aw you gonna cy, you're gonna cry now?"
Really, shouldn't 99% of the creatures who have seen your battlefield tactics in action either be dead or on your team? Who told this baddie how you fight? Seems to me there's a traitor in your midst...
You could really play this up with your character becoming unbelievably paranoid, seeing dark undercurrents in even the most mild of actions.
"I'll make the campfire."
"SO YOU CAN BURN US TO DEATH IN OUR SLEEP?! I THINK NOT, TRAITORRRRR!"
Start randomly choosing another character in the game at every meal. Eat his food and give him yours. They might've poisoned yours.
Make endurance checks every night to sleep with your eyes open.
After a while start using another random player's eating utensils too. Yours could be coated in arsenic.
So much fun to be had with a munchkin DM like this
One question to ask is this: HOW did it hear about your tactics?
Really, shouldn't 99% of the creatures who have seen your battlefield tactics in action either be dead or on your team? Who told this baddie how you fight? Seems to me there's a traitor in your midst...
You could really play this up with your character becoming unbelievably paranoid, seeing dark undercurrents in even the most mild of actions.
"I'll make the campfire."
"SO YOU CAN BURN US TO DEATH IN OUR SLEEP?! I THINK NOT, TRAITORRRRR!"
Start randomly choosing another character in the game at every meal. Eat his food and give him yours. They might've poisoned yours.
Make endurance checks every night to sleep with your eyes open.
After a while start using another random player's eating utensils too. Yours could be coated in arsenic.
So much fun to be had with a munchkin DM like this
I don't think that would really help. At all.
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
*Gnoll archer misses a shot*
"You'll never hit me, you'll never hit my tiny head! Like that, chucklenuts? You. Are. TERRIBLE!"
"Aw you gonna cy, you're gonna cry now?"
"I'm not even winded!"
One question to ask is this: HOW did it hear about your tactics?
Really, shouldn't 99% of the creatures who have seen your battlefield tactics in action either be dead or on your team? Who told this baddie how you fight? Seems to me there's a traitor in your midst...
You could really play this up with your character becoming unbelievably paranoid, seeing dark undercurrents in even the most mild of actions.
"I'll make the campfire."
"SO YOU CAN BURN US TO DEATH IN OUR SLEEP?! I THINK NOT, TRAITORRRRR!"
Start randomly choosing another character in the game at every meal. Eat his food and give him yours. They might've poisoned yours.
Make endurance checks every night to sleep with your eyes open.
After a while start using another random player's eating utensils too. Yours could be coated in arsenic.
So much fun to be had with a munchkin DM like this
I don't think that would really help. At all.
Would it help the DM realize he's using a pretty high amount of metagaming? Probably not.
Would it be funny? Very much so.
Two ways of looking at it ...
1. Your GM is impairing the monsters. They would very likely be better served attacking you and eating the reaction than avoiding you. You have free run of the battlefield, and nobody is going to touch you. Really ... your GM just made you darn near indestructible. Prance around saying 'Heeeey batter-batter HEEEEEEEY batter-batter SWING' and execute your battle plan without interference.
2. Just retrain the power next level.
Tell the monster "go ahead teach me a lesson don't hit me"
am i the only one who read Salla's top notch comments with TF2's scout's voice?
I picture christopher walken's voice.
My mind's eye (ear?) gave me Alan Ruck from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.