Anyway, so I create this new character (it's a bard... as usual). He is greedy, lazy, and obnoxious, but very charismatic, and not hideously hated. This isn't really a big deal, I guess, but he's the first character I've ever actually ROLEPLAYED.
My group seems indellibly settled on "roll-play", and our last session (second in our current campaign) was the first time I've ever even been in a city with the freedom to actually go DO things.
So, I'm ecstatic, right? Things are going well; I'm actually developing a personality for a character for once, I've earned some gold playing music in the street and I get to go spend it, and I'm having a fantastic time overall.
So is my friend, who is playing his usual character. He's able to give her personality, he's able to bond with this character he's had for two years in a game at long last.
Our DM suddenly decides hes "tired of running this silly little campaign of city-crawls", and, as my character and my friend's character walk down an alleyway, he pretty much makes her explode. It was a home-brew disease, something like "too much of a good thing", and she constantly healed hit points over her maximum hit points, and became too powerful and burst in front of the party's eyes. I was prompted to make a reflex save and rolled natural 20, so I avoided the body shrapnel flung at me, and the others were killed.
DM: "Campaign's over! Next session, play new characters because these people died."
Me: "... WHAT? You made me throw together a sixth level bard, let me toy around with things I've never had, and now you want brand new characters...?"
DM: "Yep, that's the idea."
So, I'm furious. None of my DMs has ever stuck with a campaign for some stupid reason or another. This is literally the first time in FOUR YEARS OF PLAYING D&D that I'm NOT first level. I mean, christ, I can finally fascinate people and tell them to do s***. It's exciting.
Then, as we're all packing up and getting ready to leave out for the night, he pulls me aside:
"Next time, don't play a bard. Please. There are other classes, you might want to try them."
I am... kind of... ridiculously furious. I constantly play a bard because I NEVER get past first level, and I don't get to do any cool bard things. Jesus, it's like I'm STILL TRYING THE BARD CLASS. I wanted to play a Wilder, but he "doesn't know how psionics work, you can't play one."
Not to mention, my friend is a little more than angry about his character being killed off. He's played her for two years, and she just explodes. For pretty much no reason.
I asked him if I could still play my character since I didn't... explode like the rest of my party. He says that since I was involved with the party in our campaign that I can't play as him because he's associated with a bunch of dead people.
WHAT?!
How do I deal with this in a manner that isn't entirely rude as all hell? My character isn't dead, I want to play him again, and I... don't want to be first level again... :C
Do I call him out, or do I grow up and "roll-play" with my group? I've never had a problem out of these people, this is the first time that something like this has come up and it's... well, it's frustrating.
Halp? D:
His name wouldn't happen to be "Steve" would it?
Beat him with a chair, now.
But personally, I would just play a different class, or perhaps see if anyone else would rather DM so that guy can play.
Funny enough, this guy is our normal DM, who had, earlier in the campaign, switched to be a PC and let someone else DM. I started to get fidgety around that point, it's like we were switching DMs on the fly. Maybe, in retrospect, he was ****** because he wasn't DM for a while, or maybe because he didn't like the character he rolled up as much as he initally did so he solved the problem by killing our beloved characters. Hmmm, sounds plausible... :/
AHAHAHAHAHA, thank you, everyone. I'll keep my eyes peeled. xD
2. In case that isn't an option (as GMs tend to be rare), do the following:
Sit down with your whole group, including the GM. Tell the GM to please redo that last part, because it serves no purpose. If the GM doesn't want to play anymore, it is better to say "I don't want to play", and let the characters live in case the players want to continue with a new GM, or if the GM finds the spark again later.
As for what occured here, I have experienced the same, although when I was around 15 years old. My GM was obviously tired of the game, and suddenly "Pug" (a character from some novel), who was my apprentice suddenly told me I had become evil, and teleported me on top of a razor sharp ice-spike, which instantly killed me (in spite of me beeing immune to cold, and had DM 10/magic). My ffriend was boiled in lava (instant death despite beeing immune to fire). This is the same kind of non-sense that really makes people furious.
Is this a completely new GM?
But no seriously, sounds like you're in need of a new DM.
when the stick is in close enough proximity to his face the magnetic fields of the electrons in the stick and his face will interact and his face will deform.
That is what I have learned from X-physics.
In all seriousness Be the new GM
And make him play level 1, when everybody else plays level 6
I haven't had the misfortune to be stuck with a horrible DM, but I have had to step in when they were out of ideas (read: start my own game while the other GM had writer's block, or did not feel like RPGing.) It feels good to DM your own campaign, especially if your players like it. :P If you can't find another DM, you might look into becoming the one this group needs... one that'll friggin' follow through with her campaigns.
Get a new DM QUICKLY.
This, but even quicker.
My GM was obviously tired of the game, and suddenly "Pug" (a character from some novel)
The protagonist from Magician Apprentice/Magician Master? Man, your DM was really high!
I don't know what your DMs problem was... I can't claim to understand, but frankly since I'm running one of the most disorginized groups in history with a party make up of
1. Role player
2. New Role player and character designer
3. Character designer
4. Power gamer
5. I want stuff and like to kill things
don't think I'm being too mean when I said apparently your DM couldn't cut it. I'd kill to have all my players LIKE doing the same thing at some point and according to you everyone was enjoying the city campaign.
If you were in the Maryland area, I'd invite you to my game just to let you get away from this one. Take over as DM or find a new one... but more importantly make sure you tell him that what he did was WRONG... D&D is supposed to be fun for everyone, not just him... it looks like he forgot that part.
I WOULD play a new class, though. Playing the same class over and over is kind of annoying to the other players, although I can understand why you would want to.
(Funny story about that: there's a guy in my group who will never play anything BUT a druid. And he sucks at them. Yes, he made a druid suck. He is consistently the weakest in the party.)
-Count Dravda
Do I call him out, or do I grow up and "roll-play" with my group? I've never had a problem out of these people, this is the first time that something like this has come up and it's... well, it's frustrating.
Hi LollipopBard,
It seems your DM is determined to start anew and have your group try new characters. There's nothing wrong with sharing in a mature and calm manner, how you feel.
Judge your DM's reaction to your feelings. And, based on that reaction, consider trying a new character or finding a new DM.
I understand your anger and frustration.
Believe me, it doesn't work to end up in a huge shouting match with your DM. If you feel uncomfortable with a DM, it's best to leave very gracefully and find a new group.
Also, I think you were "roll-playing," when you had your Bard. Unfortunately, you didn't have an opportunity to continue "roll-playing" with that character.
If you would like to be a DM, then feel free to do so. It's also okay if you don't wish to DM.
IMO, if at all possible (and within reason), a DM should allow players to select the PCs of their choice.
I understand your frustration and anger. But, it's always best to act maturely and with calmness.
Sarcastic Answer:
His name wouldn't happen to be "Steve" would it?
Beat him with a chair, now.
But personally, I would just play a different class, or perhaps see if anyone else would rather DM so that guy can play.
The chiar is for a bad player...DMs get the hammer gun. On that note: "Your DM should be shot. In the face. With a hammer."On a more seriouse note. Firstly I recomend getting a new DM. Simply explain to this DM that becuase you enjoy actually playing characters, and not just generating them, your play style is incompatable with his/her DMing style.
Becuase I suspect that the rest of your group may have a similar play style, in that they like playing their charatcer more then making them, when you find a new DM ask him/her if it is ok to bring the rest of the group along.
On the topic of constantly playing a bard. Don't worry about it. When yu want to play something else you will. Untill then enjoying playing whatever you like, even if it is the same bard over and over again. I've DMed for a couple of specialists in the past, one rogue, one wizard/bard/druid/ and two who played nothing but melee tanks, the important thing is that they have fun playing their favoured acritype. Who is anyone to tell them not to play what they like, as long as they aren't disruptive about it.
(Funny story about that: there's a guy in my group who will never play anything BUT a druid. And he sucks at them. Yes, he made a druid suck. He is consistently the weakest in the party.)
-Count Dravda
Thats quiet a feat. What'd he do, wear full plate mail and own a strip mine?
my bad
Step 2) Ask if they would be interested in continuing with their characters. Craft a spinoff campaign in which the players must travel through the afterlife, fighting for the right to reincarnate in the world, delving through the astral and divine planes, battling strange and otherwordly forces, and generally having a grand adventure.
Step 3) Rock on.
Bonus points are available if the next time the DM suggests a session, one of your fellows says "Nah, we're running his/her/whateveryourgenderis campaign at the moment, maybe later."
1) get a new DM
2) kill the DM
3) Become the DM
Get a new DM QUICKLY.
Blow up your DM... quickly.
Get a new DM.
Second. Not only that, but remove the old DM from your gaming group.
But anyway, I think I'll just go buy myself one of the Monster Manuals or a DM Guide... or... something and try my own campaign.
Maybe being away from this guy for a little while will help.
And I won't be inviting over anyone except for my friend whose character exploded.
DM: "LOL, YOU WERE SO OUT-BARDED LOLOL"
Me: "Yeah, 'cause he was freaking GODMODING and trying to metagame the whole time and you didn't do anything about him. >_>"
DM: "... Wait... What's a godmode?"
Me: "*FACEPALM*"
Also, this other guy is partially the reason the party member exploded. >_>
Oh, gee. Did I leave that out the first time? A guy that played a bard just because he was trying to "out-bard" me? Hmm, seems I did. Ah, well. C:
Thats quiet a feat. What'd he do, wear full plate mail and own a strip mine?
No, he thought the wildshape and spells were too much work.
-Count Dravda
No, he thought the wildshape and spells were too much work.
-Count Dravda
Wow, just wow. Thats like being a fighter and thinking weapons and armor are too much work
But, maybe I am wrong and your DM is very bad. We will know for sure if you actually do invite him and he posts here.
This sounds weird. Tell ya what LollipopBard, invite your DM here and let us see what he has to say. We will either give him some good advice or find out your story is not quite the whole story. I am a little susp because of this line "He is greedy, lazy, and obnoxious, but very charismatic,..". You can not really be greedy, lazy, and obnoxious and still be charismatic. And, it kinda sounds like you might have been playing a disruptive character.
But, maybe I am wrong and your DM is very bad. We will know for sure if you actually do invite him and he posts here.
he hit them with a freaking glimmerskin or something realy close to it in the middle of their first session! just with that in mind it is safe to say he is an ahole with no further info.
No, he thought the wildshape and spells were too much work.
-Count Dravda
...What else is there to a druid?Kill him. Take his stuff.
he hit them with a freaking glimmerskin or something realy close to it in the middle of their first session! just with that in mind it is safe to say he is an ahole with no further info.
Except that we do not know that.
We will not know that until the DM comes here and explains his side.
Imagine- "Hey, hey, so, uhhhh.... I was talking crap about you on this huge forum. I demand you defend yourself, so here's the URL..."
Not that it was even right of me to bring this here in the first place, but I was really wondering what I should do about the situation.
Don't get me wrong, he's not a terrible DM. I just quite disapprove of him handling the situation like he did, and I was wondering the least rude way to go about bringing it up without hurting anyone's feelings. This seemed like the right place to do that.
In any case, I don't think it a very wise idea to invite him here- it seems more rude than me outright telling him that he sucks for doing what he did to the party. :C
Also, about me playing a disruptive character... I know it would seem biased because my character is MY character, but there is NO way I was playing a disruptive character. If anything, the OTHER bard was being disruptive with his mighty godmoding and super-obnoxious attitude about the rest of the party. He wasn't even an evil alignment, but he sure hated all of us.
And, personally, I think a character CAN be greedy, lazy, and obnoxious and still charismatic. Charisma is not a dump stat, my character was charismatic in that he was able to talk to others in a manner that made them feel comfortable (really helpful for sugestion, you know?). He was true neutral, and was pretty much in the group for earning money because he was too lazy to get his own job. 'Nice guys finish last,' 'women love a-holes', etc.
By roleplaying this character in the manner I did, it also left room for character development- which would have happened if the campaign had lasted any longer. 'Cause, you know, the longer people hang out with each other, the more likely they are to form stronger bonds and be a better team player.
I despise when people try to play disruptively. I think it sucks the fun out of a game and allows for a pretty mournful time for everyone else. Again, it'll sound biased coming from myself, but I'd never play a character in such a way that my party hated me and wanted me dead. I have since spoken to three members of my group, and they seemed to have had no qualms with my character.
Or maybe this is because I'm a girl and they're intimidated and were trying to get me to leave. Whatever. xDD I highly doubt that's true anyway- I've known all of these people for far too long for them to think that.
Sorry if I sounded rude at any point, it wasn't my intention. C:
More than there is to a fighter!
HIYOOOOOO!!!!
Danielinthewolvesden, I'm sorry, but I don't think inviting the DM here is the right thing to do either.
Imagine- "Hey, hey, so, uhhhh.... I was talking crap about you on this huge forum. I demand you defend yourself, so here's the URL..."
Not that it was even right of me to bring this here in the first place, but I was really wondering what I should do about the situation.
Also, about me playing a disruptive character... I know it would seem biased because my character is MY character, but there is NO way I was playing a disruptive character.
I despise when people try to play disruptively. :
Ok, you know him better than I. But at least you considered it. Thanks.
And I accept you were not playing disputive, but you know how often we see someone talk about their "obnoxious" PC and it turns out they are disruptive. Just consider it. Thanks again. You sound pretty thoughtful.
Ps, if you had mentioned you were female, I would have just figured you were "venting" here. :P
More than there is to a fighter!
HIYOOOOOO!!!!
LOL
I can honestly think of no good in game reason to have a PC suddenly explode.
Nor to end a city mini-campaign where people are highlighting their characters for background.
Nor for a reason for you to not play a bard, because you apparently like them.
if your original post is true, you've got a bad DM.
Step 2) Ask if they would be interested in continuing with their characters. Craft a spinoff campaign in which the players must travel through the afterlife, fighting for the right to reincarnate in the world, delving through the astral and divine planes, battling strange and otherwordly forces, and generally having a grand adventure.
Funny thing is, I had planned to 'kill' my player's chars, then have them go through the afterlife... Complete with meeting their gods and getting a bit of their power (at the end they will have to beat down Tharizdun in a 1 on x* fight)
*- x being however many players I can find, it's a pbp.
Ok, you know him better than I. But at least you considered it. Thanks.
And I accept you were not playing disputive, but you know how often we see someone talk about their "obnoxious" PC and it turns out they are disruptive. Just consider it. Thanks again. You sound pretty thoughtful.
Ps, if you had mentioned you were female, I would have just figured you were "venting" here. :P
Er... What does gender have to do with the problem?
It's called stereotyping. You know, like with what WotC does every time they make a new book?
I think they did it more when they opened a girls only forum, (Or a forum section about girls and roleplaying, whatever.)