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So our Paladin stuck a bag of holding in a bag of holding....

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#1
Lanx
Mar 14, 2010 21:06:49 little bit of a back story, our campaign is somewhat based off Terry Goodkinds the Sword of Truth series, with the main villain being Lord Raul and his D'haran army ect, He wants the book of Counted Shadows and by this point in the campaign we managed to obtain it, we figured the best way to stop him was to destroy the book.

Now we had a Gold Dragon with us, and Dragons Breath can destroy magical items, but theres always side effects and we didn't want any harm to come to the dragon, given the dragon served the same god as our lawful good paladin (Pelor). so the Paladin gets this great idea to stick the book in a bag of holding and then stick it in another bag of holding.... now everyone (out of character) should know this opens a planar rift to the astral plane... in character I rolled a knowledge arcana to determine what the outcome of this would be and failed the roll (im a rogue), Paladin succeded but opted to not to inform me of that side effect and thus convinced me it was a good idea and that all there would be was a big explosion... out of character I was cringing... so we had the dragon fly the paladin up really high in the air, drop the book in the first bag, and then cast unseen servant and instructed it to jump off the dragon and halfway down put the first bag in the second bag... big bang... planar rift opens... undead **** EVERYWHERE now...

Thoughts? can a Planar rift be closed?
#2
chaosturtle
Mar 14, 2010 23:36:49 I don't remember if it was 3e or 3.5, but they changed the bag of holding thing...IIRC, the bag would just reject the other bag. I'm not sure exactly where the ruling is but I'm sure someone more informed could point you towards it.
#3
salla
Mar 14, 2010 23:39:56 According to the SRD, you only get that kind of interaction if you put a portable hole in a bag of holding, not one bag in another (nothing bad happens when you put one bag in another); and even then, the rift is a momentary thing that sucks everything nearby into the Astral Plane then closes.

Your DM is making stuff up, in other words, so you'll have to make knowledge checks and stuff to see how his house rule works.
#4
Lanx
Mar 15, 2010 0:06:40 Yeah looks like I miss-read the bag in the bag thing, now that you mentioned the portable hole and the bag thing that rings a better bell... so to say... lol
#5
vampire_bat
Mar 15, 2010 0:54:34 I ruled they caused a big bad reaction when crossed and the like just.. lost all property the stuff inside jettisoned to the astral plane. But thats how I ran it. :S
#6
mrquizzles
Mar 16, 2010 3:14:44 More interesting is more fun! Make them behave however your group wants them to behave as long as everyone can agree.

Of course, that sort of thinking is what led us to fill a bag of holding with gunpowder and then throw it in a fire.
#7
zxvalarevan
Mar 16, 2010 21:22:17
More interesting is more fun! Make them behave however your group wants them to behave as long as everyone can agree.

Of course, that sort of thinking is what led us to fill a bag of holding with gunpowder and then throw it in a fire.

My players have tried way too many shenanigans with Bags of Holding, including putting monsters in bags of holding, throwing bags of holding over people's heads and pulling, and filling bags of holding with Alchemist's Fire or Acid, and then dumping them on enemies.
#8
deacon_liadon
Mar 17, 2010 12:40:11
My players have tried way too many shenanigans with Bags of Holding, including putting monsters in bags of holding, throwing bags of holding over people's heads and pulling, and filling bags of holding with Alchemist's Fire or Acid, and then dumping them on enemies.

My favourite experience with one was filling it with Holy Water and later dumping the entire thing on an Aspect of Hextor.
#9
Cyvaris
Mar 17, 2010 20:46:44 I remember a game I played in, we uh skinned a dragon we killed and used it to wrap the bag of holding. Not that bad, till someone said the skin used was the sphincter. So we then had the sphincter of holding that the DM had a random table he rolled on a random table to determine diffrent things it did. The bad farted once during a rather tense stealth game, and well hilarity insued.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Lanx Mar 14, 2010 21:06:49	little bit of a back story, our campaign is somewhat based off Terry Goodkinds the Sword of Truth series, with the main villain being Lord Raul and his D'haran army ect, He wants the book of Counted Shadows and by this point in the campaign we managed to obtain it, we figured the best way to stop him was to destroy the book. Now we had a Gold Dragon with us, and Dragons Breath can destroy magical items, but theres always side effects and we didn't want any harm to come to the dragon, given the dragon served the same god as our lawful good paladin (Pelor). so the Paladin gets this great idea to stick the book in a bag of holding and then stick it in another bag of holding.... now everyone (out of character) should know this opens a planar rift to the astral plane... in character I rolled a knowledge arcana to determine what the outcome of this would be and failed the roll (im a rogue), Paladin succeded but opted to not to inform me of that side effect and thus convinced me it was a good idea and that all there would be was a big explosion... out of character I was cringing... so we had the dragon fly the paladin up really high in the air, drop the book in the first bag, and then cast unseen servant and instructed it to jump off the dragon and halfway down put the first bag in the second bag... big bang... planar rift opens... undead **** EVERYWHERE now... Thoughts? can a Planar rift be closed?
#2 chaosturtle Mar 14, 2010 23:36:49	I don't remember if it was 3e or 3.5, but they changed the bag of holding thing...IIRC, the bag would just reject the other bag. I'm not sure exactly where the ruling is but I'm sure someone more informed could point you towards it.
#3 salla Mar 14, 2010 23:39:56	According to the SRD, you only get that kind of interaction if you put a portable hole in a bag of holding, not one bag in another (nothing bad happens when you put one bag in another); and even then, the rift is a momentary thing that sucks everything nearby into the Astral Plane then closes. Your DM is making stuff up, in other words, so you'll have to make knowledge checks and stuff to see how his house rule works.
#4 Lanx Mar 15, 2010 0:06:40	Yeah looks like I miss-read the bag in the bag thing, now that you mentioned the portable hole and the bag thing that rings a better bell... so to say... lol
#5 vampire_bat Mar 15, 2010 0:54:34	I ruled they caused a big bad reaction when crossed and the like just.. lost all property the stuff inside jettisoned to the astral plane. But thats how I ran it. :S
#6 mrquizzles Mar 16, 2010 3:14:44	More interesting is more fun! Make them behave however your group wants them to behave as long as everyone can agree. Of course, that sort of thinking is what led us to fill a bag of holding with gunpowder and then throw it in a fire.
#7 zxvalarevan Mar 16, 2010 21:22:17	More interesting is more fun! Make them behave however your group wants them to behave as long as everyone can agree. Of course, that sort of thinking is what led us to fill a bag of holding with gunpowder and then throw it in a fire. My players have tried way too many shenanigans with Bags of Holding, including putting monsters in bags of holding, throwing bags of holding over people's heads and pulling, and filling bags of holding with Alchemist's Fire or Acid, and then dumping them on enemies.
#8 deacon_liadon Mar 17, 2010 12:40:11	My players have tried way too many shenanigans with Bags of Holding, including putting monsters in bags of holding, throwing bags of holding over people's heads and pulling, and filling bags of holding with Alchemist's Fire or Acid, and then dumping them on enemies. My favourite experience with one was filling it with Holy Water and later dumping the entire thing on an Aspect of Hextor.
#9 Cyvaris Mar 17, 2010 20:46:44	I remember a game I played in, we uh skinned a dragon we killed and used it to wrap the bag of holding. Not that bad, till someone said the skin used was the sphincter. So we then had the sphincter of holding that the DM had a random table he rolled on a random table to determine diffrent things it did. The bad farted once during a rather tense stealth game, and well hilarity insued.