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#1
krivakiii
Apr 18, 2008 12:40:14 Just had a session last night, and my character seemed incredibly ineffective, so I'm looking for advice on things to improve.

We're in a homebrew campaign world so we're trying to really use every mechanic developed by WotC and other things that look cool. This means there isn't really a focus to our enemies like undead, but it does mean almost anything from any book is available for use.

So here's my character so far, 8th lvl gestalt cleric/wilder. We have 2 melee fighter types, a Master shape changing druid/bard, and a warlock/rogue. My character is trying to fill healing and arcane blaster.

Some flavour character stuff is that this guy really likes elemental spirits (though I haven't summoned often). This is why most powers are elemental in nature.

I haven't been interested in the melee cleric builds which is what I've found almost exclusively, but I am open to suggestions.

Sorry to ramble, this is my first post.

Anshuman
Alignment: Neutral Good
Cleric 6/Paragnostic Disciple 2, Wilder 8

Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Planetouched) *affected like humanoid and outsider (Lesser Genasi variant)
Hit Dice: 6d8+2d6 + 24 (84) Current HP: 23/84
Initiative: +3 (+3 Dex)
Speed: 30 ft. (30 ft.) -> 20ft

Armor Class: 21(24) (10 + 2 Dex + 8 DH +1 Nat) (+ 3 Shield)
Flat Footed: 19(22) (10 + 8 DH +1 Nat) (+ 3 Shield)
Touch: 16 (10 + 2 Dex + 4 Cha)

Saves:
Fort +8 (+5 base, +3 Con)
Ref +5 (+2 base, +3 Dex)
Will +12 (+8 base, +4 Wis)

Abilities: Str 10, Dex 15(16), Con 15(16), Int 14, Wis 19, Cha 16(18)

Brackets for boosted

Skills:
Autohypnosis (5 Ranks + 4 Wis + 2 Syn) +11
Balance (0 Ranks + 2 Dex) +2-4-3
Bluff (0 Ranks + 3 Cha) +3
Concentration (5 Ranks + 3 Con) +8
Diplomacy (5 Ranks + 3 Cha) +8
Heal (3 Ranks + 4 Wis) +7
Knowledge (Arcana) (9 Ranks + 2 Int + 0 Syn) +11
Knowledge (Religion) (8 Ranks + 2 Int) +10
Knowledge (Psionics) (5 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +9
Knowledge (Planes) (1 Ranks +2 Int) +3
Knowledge (History) (2 Int + 5 headband) +7
Listen (4 Ranks + 4 Wis) +8
Sense Motive (0 Ranks + 4 Wis) +4
Spot (3 Ranks + 4 Wis) +7
Spellcraft (6 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +10
Psicraft (6 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +10
Tumble (2 Ranks + 2 Dex) +4
Speak Terran (1 Rank)
Speak Celestial (1 Rank)
Speak Fam Vorbir (1 Rank)
Speak Infernal (1 Rank)

Feats:
Earth Devotion(CChamp): Use turn attempt+1 to affect 5ft sq/3 lvl (1 min)
Chosen of Iborighu (Frostburn p47), gaze attack 30ft, F-DC18, 7 dmg +fatigued->exhausted
Expanded Knowledge (Dimensional Hop)*
Protection Devotion(CChamp): +4 Sacred bonus to AC 30ft, 3turns to use again

*Bonus feat in place of Volatile mind as per Mind's Eye variant Educated Wilder

Class Abilities:
Turn undead (1d20+6/2d6+12) 7x/day
Turn fire/Rebuke water (1d20+4/2d6+12) 7x/day
Wild Surge +3, Psychic enervation (15%)
Breathe water
+1/5lvls saves against water spells and effect
Darkvision 60ft
Create water 1/day (5th lvl)
Elude Touch (+4 touch AC)
Surging Euphoria +1
Lore (like bardic knowledge d20+6)
Mind over Body: +1 caster lvl to healing spells and ability enhancement/penalty spells
Dragonscale husk (6+8/3, Check -4, Res Fire 5)
Penetrating Insight: +1 caster lvl to overcome SR ->from CChampion

Domains:
Water (command water creatures, rebuke fire creatures)
Sand (Create things from sand up to 8ft^3) - armour/weapon DC 10, MW DC +10, tool DC 7

Power Points: 58+16 -20
1 (DC 15) - Energy ray(A), Crystal Shard(A), Dimensional Hop*(CP)
2 (DC 16) - Energy push(AV)
3 (DC 17) - Telekinetic Thrust(V)
4 (DC 18) - Dimension Door

Let me know if there's anything else that's helpful!
#2
krivakiii
Apr 18, 2008 18:34:51 Not the quick response I would have hoped for, so let's clarify some things. I want your help and feedback to improve this character so even brutal honesty along the "what were you thinking about ..." line is useful. I like the character, so salvaging his essence would be nice. There's always Psychic Reformation for my particularly bad choices.

For those of you who are keen for more character context feel free to check out this forum for more details on other PCs and the adventure so far.
#3
gentlemanic
Apr 18, 2008 18:56:48 Dude.. You are gestalt and have a load of skills.. Just wait a session, perhaps then you can come in and rock the melee guys. Be patient. Let your friends have some spotlight time.
#4
krivakiii
Apr 18, 2008 19:03:03 I don't know that I'm being impatient. Most of my skill checks have been less than either the Rogue or the Bard which you would tend to expect. Not the best example for a character strength.

Last session was also #11 or 12 (we've been going from first), and I've had this concern since about session 3. This was just the first time that over half of the 6 hour session was spent doing very little.

Thanks for being the first to comment though!
#5
anansi
Apr 18, 2008 21:13:50 May I suggest posting this in the Character Optimization boards?
#6
krivakiii
Apr 18, 2008 21:48:58 Didn't see that when I started it, but I would happily move it if I knew how. Should it be flagged to ask a moderator to move it?
#7
krivakiii
Apr 19, 2008 13:58:59 So I restarted the thread here in the CO boards. Let me know if there's anything else I should do.
#8
etarnon
Apr 19, 2008 19:53:28 What is the character's personality, and backstory?
#9
krivakiii
Apr 19, 2008 21:16:52 I again direct you here for the new CO version of this.

But character wise I'll start with backstory. So Anshuman is from a desert nomad tribe and has lived as a goat herder for ~20yrs. Then while he's out looking for water, which as a genasi allows a small group travel further in the desert, a messenger from his tribe tells him the Vizier in the nearby city is after him. So he runs. Hides in the desert for a few weeks.

Eventually some traders cross his path and he convinces them to let him follow. He arrives at this bordertown, and some **** goes down and he joins up with these other adventurers. From there, more adventures. More details here

As for character personality, Anshuman is hot-tempered, inquisitive, and has strong values. He is very interested in spirits of an elemental nature, or that's how I've justified the focus on elemental powers and the water domain. Also related to the Earth Devotion (C Champ).
#10
orc_bethanna_dup
Apr 19, 2008 23:53:53 this thread is being closed, as it has been resumed in another forum. original poster has left a redirect above.

thanks!
#11
gamer_zer0
Apr 20, 2008 12:57:45 I'll check into why this thread was closed, but in the mean time, I am re-opening it so the discussion may continue.

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#1 krivakiii Apr 18, 2008 12:40:14	Just had a session last night, and my character seemed incredibly ineffective, so I'm looking for advice on things to improve. We're in a homebrew campaign world so we're trying to really use every mechanic developed by WotC and other things that look cool. This means there isn't really a focus to our enemies like undead, but it does mean almost anything from any book is available for use. So here's my character so far, 8th lvl gestalt cleric/wilder. We have 2 melee fighter types, a Master shape changing druid/bard, and a warlock/rogue. My character is trying to fill healing and arcane blaster. Some flavour character stuff is that this guy really likes elemental spirits (though I haven't summoned often). This is why most powers are elemental in nature. I haven't been interested in the melee cleric builds which is what I've found almost exclusively, but I am open to suggestions. Sorry to ramble, this is my first post. Anshuman Alignment: Neutral Good Cleric 6/Paragnostic Disciple 2, Wilder 8 Size/Type: Medium Humanoid (Planetouched) affected like humanoid and outsider (Lesser Genasi variant) Hit Dice: 6d8+2d6 + 24 (84) Current HP: 23/84 Initiative: +3 (+3 Dex) Speed: 30 ft. (30 ft.) -> 20ft Armor Class: 21(24) (10 + 2 Dex + 8 DH +1 Nat) (+ 3 Shield) Flat Footed: 19(22) (10 + 8 DH +1 Nat) (+ 3 Shield) Touch: 16 (10 + 2 Dex + 4 Cha) Saves:* Fort +8 (+5 base, +3 Con) Ref +5 (+2 base, +3 Dex) Will +12 (+8 base, +4 Wis) Abilities: Str 10, Dex 15(16), Con 15(16), Int 14, Wis 19, Cha 16(18) Brackets for boosted Skills: Autohypnosis (5 Ranks + 4 Wis + 2 Syn) +11 Balance (0 Ranks + 2 Dex) +2-4-3 Bluff (0 Ranks + 3 Cha) +3 Concentration (5 Ranks + 3 Con) +8 Diplomacy (5 Ranks + 3 Cha) +8 Heal (3 Ranks + 4 Wis) +7 Knowledge (Arcana) (9 Ranks + 2 Int + 0 Syn) +11 Knowledge (Religion) (8 Ranks + 2 Int) +10 Knowledge (Psionics) (5 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +9 Knowledge (Planes) (1 Ranks +2 Int) +3 Knowledge (History) (2 Int + 5 headband) +7 Listen (4 Ranks + 4 Wis) +8 Sense Motive (0 Ranks + 4 Wis) +4 Spot (3 Ranks + 4 Wis) +7 Spellcraft (6 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +10 Psicraft (6 Ranks + 2 Int + 2 Syn) +10 Tumble (2 Ranks + 2 Dex) +4 Speak Terran (1 Rank) Speak Celestial (1 Rank) Speak Fam Vorbir (1 Rank) Speak Infernal (1 Rank) Feats: Earth Devotion(CChamp): Use turn attempt+1 to affect 5ft sq/3 lvl (1 min) Chosen of Iborighu (Frostburn p47), gaze attack 30ft, F-DC18, 7 dmg +fatigued->exhausted Expanded Knowledge (Dimensional Hop)* Protection Devotion(CChamp): +4 Sacred bonus to AC 30ft, 3turns to use again Bonus feat in place of Volatile mind as per Mind's Eye variant Educated Wilder Class Abilities: Turn undead (1d20+6/2d6+12) 7x/day Turn fire/Rebuke water (1d20+4/2d6+12) 7x/day Wild Surge +3, Psychic enervation (15%) Breathe water +1/5lvls saves against water spells and effect Darkvision 60ft Create water 1/day (5th lvl) Elude Touch (+4 touch AC) Surging Euphoria +1 Lore (like bardic knowledge d20+6) Mind over Body: +1 caster lvl to healing spells and ability enhancement/penalty spells Dragonscale husk (6+8/3, Check -4, Res Fire 5) Penetrating Insight: +1 caster lvl to overcome SR ->from CChampion Domains: Water (command water creatures, rebuke fire creatures) Sand (Create things from sand up to 8ft^3) - armour/weapon DC 10, MW DC +10, tool DC 7 Power Points: 58+16 -20 1 (DC 15) - Energy ray(A), Crystal Shard(A), Dimensional Hop(CP) 2 (DC 16) - Energy push(AV) 3 (DC 17) - Telekinetic Thrust(V) 4 (DC 18) - Dimension Door Let me know if there's anything else that's helpful!
#2 krivakiii Apr 18, 2008 18:34:51	Not the quick response I would have hoped for, so let's clarify some things. I want your help and feedback to improve this character so even brutal honesty along the "what were you thinking about ..." line is useful. I like the character, so salvaging his essence would be nice. There's always Psychic Reformation for my particularly bad choices. For those of you who are keen for more character context feel free to check out this forum for more details on other PCs and the adventure so far.
#3 gentlemanic Apr 18, 2008 18:56:48	Dude.. You are gestalt and have a load of skills.. Just wait a session, perhaps then you can come in and rock the melee guys. Be patient. Let your friends have some spotlight time.
#4 krivakiii Apr 18, 2008 19:03:03	I don't know that I'm being impatient. Most of my skill checks have been less than either the Rogue or the Bard which you would tend to expect. Not the best example for a character strength. Last session was also #11 or 12 (we've been going from first), and I've had this concern since about session 3. This was just the first time that over half of the 6 hour session was spent doing very little. Thanks for being the first to comment though!
#5 anansi Apr 18, 2008 21:13:50	May I suggest posting this in the Character Optimization boards?
#6 krivakiii Apr 18, 2008 21:48:58	Didn't see that when I started it, but I would happily move it if I knew how. Should it be flagged to ask a moderator to move it?
#7 krivakiii Apr 19, 2008 13:58:59	So I restarted the thread here in the CO boards. Let me know if there's anything else I should do.
#8 etarnon Apr 19, 2008 19:53:28	What is the character's personality, and backstory?
#9 krivakiii Apr 19, 2008 21:16:52	I again direct you here for the new CO version of this. But character wise I'll start with backstory. So Anshuman is from a desert nomad tribe and has lived as a goat herder for ~20yrs. Then while he's out looking for water, which as a genasi allows a small group travel further in the desert, a messenger from his tribe tells him the Vizier in the nearby city is after him. So he runs. Hides in the desert for a few weeks. Eventually some traders cross his path and he convinces them to let him follow. He arrives at this bordertown, and some **** goes down and he joins up with these other adventurers. From there, more adventures. More details here As for character personality, Anshuman is hot-tempered, inquisitive, and has strong values. He is very interested in spirits of an elemental nature, or that's how I've justified the focus on elemental powers and the water domain. Also related to the Earth Devotion (C Champ).
#10 orc_bethanna_dup Apr 19, 2008 23:53:53	this thread is being closed, as it has been resumed in another forum. original poster has left a redirect above. thanks!
#11 gamer_zer0 Apr 20, 2008 12:57:45	I'll check into why this thread was closed, but in the mean time, I am re-opening it so the discussion may continue.