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Wildshape + Natural Spell (3.5e)

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#1
ambrosesilverwolfe
Sep 26, 2011 14:29:03 This may sound, not so useful but potentially effective. When, a druid at level 12, you are able to get Wildshape (plant) you decide to get the natural spell feat. Do spells work on yourself? Like for instance: you wildshape into a plant (say a vine or other viney stringy plant substance) and cast entangled when there is no other plant nearby, can you use yourself as the source? (also the use of control plants with same question)
#2
oxybe
Sep 26, 2011 14:34:46 natural spell is one of the many reasons druids in 3.5 are borked. shapeshift gives you combat abilities equivalent to a fighter and natural spell lets you keep your full casting capabilities.

i like to call it the "bear effect".

you turn into a bear, summon smaller bears, cast animal growth on your summoned bears & companion bear. make them all fly via a spell and then you're the Royal Canadian Bear Force shooting death lasers from the sky.
#3
RyndarLocke
Sep 26, 2011 18:18:24
This may sound, not so useful but potentially effective. When, a druid at level 12, you are able to get Wildshape (plant) you decide to get the natural spell feat. Do spells work on yourself? Like for instance: you wildshape into a plant (say a vine or other viney stringy plant substance) and cast entangled when there is no other plant nearby, can you use yourself as the source? (also the use of control plants with same question)

Does the spell say you can use a "plant creature" as the source? if so yes. If not, then no.
#4
warghoul
Sep 26, 2011 23:21:05
...and then you're the Royal Canadian Bear Force shooting death lasers from the sky.

The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen would give`em a run for their money.
#5
oxybe
Sep 27, 2011 4:07:37 as for the actual "plantmanthing", from a rules standpoint i would say no.

reasoning: while it does change your shape, the shapechange it doesn't acually change your type.

when you shapechange into a bear, you can't animal growth yourself since even though you look like bear, you're still considered a humanoid (whatever) for all intent and purposes.

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#1 ambrosesilverwolfe Sep 26, 2011 14:29:03	This may sound, not so useful but potentially effective. When, a druid at level 12, you are able to get Wildshape (plant) you decide to get the natural spell feat. Do spells work on yourself? Like for instance: you wildshape into a plant (say a vine or other viney stringy plant substance) and cast entangled when there is no other plant nearby, can you use yourself as the source? (also the use of control plants with same question)
#2 oxybe Sep 26, 2011 14:34:46	natural spell is one of the many reasons druids in 3.5 are borked. shapeshift gives you combat abilities equivalent to a fighter and natural spell lets you keep your full casting capabilities. i like to call it the "bear effect". you turn into a bear, summon smaller bears, cast animal growth on your summoned bears & companion bear. make them all fly via a spell and then you're the Royal Canadian Bear Force shooting death lasers from the sky.
#3 RyndarLocke Sep 26, 2011 18:18:24	This may sound, not so useful but potentially effective. When, a druid at level 12, you are able to get Wildshape (plant) you decide to get the natural spell feat. Do spells work on yourself? Like for instance: you wildshape into a plant (say a vine or other viney stringy plant substance) and cast entangled when there is no other plant nearby, can you use yourself as the source? (also the use of control plants with same question) Does the spell say you can use a "plant creature" as the source? if so yes. If not, then no.
#4 warghoul Sep 26, 2011 23:21:05	...and then you're the Royal Canadian Bear Force shooting death lasers from the sky. The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen would give`em a run for their money.
#5 oxybe Sep 27, 2011 4:07:37	as for the actual "plantmanthing", from a rules standpoint i would say no. reasoning: while it does change your shape, the shapechange it doesn't acually change your type. when you shapechange into a bear, you can't animal growth yourself since even though you look like bear, you're still considered a humanoid (whatever) for all intent and purposes.